[ASKED] Changing oil type for the track and for road use - why?
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[ASKED] Changing oil type for the track and for road use - why?
What is the effect of changing from Dexos compliant 5W30 to Mobil1 15W50 for the track and back for road use? Some cars which are used on track a lot such as Porsche's and GT-R's recommend Mobil 1 0W40 for all uses, with no changes required when driving on track. Would this oil be fine for track and street use in the C7? What are the negative effects of leaving the 15W50 after track days and driving on the road, and at what temperatures is it an issue, hot or cold? Some of these oils have higher ZDDP levels, and current formulations have much lower levels, so how does this affect catalytic converter life; is it a 100,000 mile issue or is it much shorter? And how about sludge formation in the engine when running at very high oil temps on track? Another chief engineer of a different car said the Mobil 1 0W40 was the best at resisting sludge formation inside the combustion chamber, and a Mobil 1 rep at their booth at the PRI show told me that particular 0W40 oil was their "best" oil, so it would be nice if we could safely use it all the time for track and road use. I suspect very few people who tack their cars take the 15W50 out after every track day.
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Now, while you might not consider driving your Corvette in ice cold temps, that doesn't change the fact that GM validates them for it. Thus the 5W.
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That's partially it. The lower 5W is beneficial in colder temperatures. Remember that these cars have to be able to be driven in very cold temperatures (funny that their OEM tires can't). The higher 15W will provide less viscosity in the colder temps than the 5W does.
Now, while you might not consider driving your Corvette in ice cold temps, that doesn't change the fact that GM validates them for it. Thus the 5W.
Now, while you might not consider driving your Corvette in ice cold temps, that doesn't change the fact that GM validates them for it. Thus the 5W.
Actually the 15W provides HIGHER viscosity, viscosity is a measure of a fluids resistance to flow. This is why Mobil 0W-40 is such a great oil, at colds temps it is relatvely thin so it flows easier but still has a higher viscosity at operating temps so can handle the high performance aspects of driving. Plus is has higher ZDDP to boot. Obviously 15W-50 is better for a dedicated track car but 0w-40 is the best all around oil.
The problem with oil is not that it thins out as it gets warmer, its that it gets thicker as it cools down. Have to think like a petroleum engineer
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Actually the 15W provides HIGHER viscosity, viscosity is a measure of a fluids resistance to flow. This is why Mobil 0W-40 is such a great oil, at colds temps it is relatvely thin so it flows easier but still has a higher viscosity at operating temps so can handle the high performance aspects of driving. Plus is has higher ZDDP to boot. Obviously 15W-50 is better for a dedicated track car but 0w-40 is the best all around oil.
The problem with oil is not that it thins out as it gets warmer, its that it gets thicker as it cools down. Have to think like a petroleum engineer
The problem with oil is not that it thins out as it gets warmer, its that it gets thicker as it cools down. Have to think like a petroleum engineer
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Mobil 1 15W-50 has higher ZDDP than the regular 5W/10W; not sure about 0W levels. I know the SBC crowd recommends 15W for performance builds because of this.
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Here you go ladies:
Specs for all Mobil 1 oils:
https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us...pecs-guide.pdf
Source:
https://mobiloil.com/en/faq/ask-our-...r-classic-cars
Specs for all Mobil 1 oils:
https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us...pecs-guide.pdf
Source:
https://mobiloil.com/en/faq/ask-our-...r-classic-cars
Last edited by KnightmareCS; 10-30-2015 at 04:22 PM.
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Unless you plan on driving your Corvette in sub freezing temps (which you should not have to do) just leave the 15w50 in it and forget about it. It has more of the good stuff in it, wont affect the mileage and will offer more protection under high load (high cylinder pressure) use. Every off road all aluminum racing engine that I know of is recommended to use 15w40 or 15w50 as the extra clearances naturally in a hot all aluminum engine can use the slightly heavier viscosity oil.
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One of the main points is whether or not you could just use Mobil 1 0W40 for every use, and not have to bother changing up to 15W50. 0W40 is the oil used by many cars for both track and road use with no requirement for chaning betwen lighter an thicker oils for road and track.
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This one accidentally got lost in the shuffle. I'll remember to put it up next time around.
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One of the main points is whether or not you could just use Mobil 1 0W40 for every use, and not have to bother changing up to 15W50. 0W40 is the oil used by many cars for both track and road use with no requirement for chaning betwen lighter an thicker oils for road and track.
I would revise the original post and make this question direct and clear before it goes to voting.
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I vote for this one also. 50 years ago Multiviscosity oils were just coming to the marketplace. The usual manufacturer's oil recommendation before that was in the spring, summer and fall we ran straight 30 weight and in the winter we ran 10 weight. Of course we changed oil every 3 months back then and the engines weren't built as tight.
My 65 and 68 Old's required either 10W30 oil year round or the 10 in winter and 30 in summer combo. Oil consumption with the multiviscosity was about a quart per month but with the straight 30 weight I could go 3 months without adding.
Bill
My 65 and 68 Old's required either 10W30 oil year round or the 10 in winter and 30 in summer combo. Oil consumption with the multiviscosity was about a quart per month but with the straight 30 weight I could go 3 months without adding.
Bill