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The instrument cluster in the Z06 will not allow engine water temp to be displayed as a pocket gauge. It is displayed as a numeric value in the tour mode info display but not available in sport or track at all.
I understand the base model has a physical water temp gauge where the Z06 boost gauge is so the choice made some sense for the base model but would really like to be able to have water temp as a pocket gauge in sport mode in my Z06.
Any way this could be added as a software update for the instrument cluster?
I have coolant temp displayed as digital number all the time. Coolant, oil temp, oil pressure, volts in a vertical group just off center. Better than analog readouts because you can actually read the numbers Vs guess.
Bill
JC,
You probably have already figured this out but I came across your thread while looking for a previous Tadge answer. You can display water temp in sport or track in the DIC section of the configurable display but not as a pocket gauge. It is set under the performance menu tab.
I picked my Z06 up Saturday at the museum and one of the first things I did on the drive home was set up the sport theme with oil temp and pressure pocket gauges with water temp displayed in the DIC portion.
P.S. Thanks for your review of the Top Flight plate mount since it looks like the least offensive choice.
JC,
You probably have already figured this out but I came across your thread while looking for a previous Tadge answer. You can display water temp in sport or track in the DIC section of the configurable display but not as a pocket gauge. It is set under the performance menu tab.
I picked my Z06 up Saturday at the museum and one of the first things I did on the drive home was set up the sport theme with oil temp and pressure pocket gauges with water temp displayed in the DIC portion.
P.S. Thanks for your review of the Top Flight plate mount since it looks like the least offensive choice.
You will soon find that the water temp gauge in the center display is mostly useless for real world scenarios. Since the red indicator line is always in the center and the scale numbers move behind it, one has to take their eyes off the driving for far too long to decipher is any change as occurred or if approaching a problem. Heck the digital display in the tour mode is better for track use than those poorly presented rolling ball gages. Its obvious they were presented by a programmer far more interested in gee wiz graphics than anyone that actually dove a car before and might need to use them.
I really would like to see this one sent to Tadge, it actually would not be that hard to fix and is an obvious oversight when they reused the display graphics that were developed for the base car in the Z06.
I find it hard to believe that so few drivers are bothered by the missing gage.
I was also surprised that coolant temp wasn't a pocket gauge option. I think the best implementation would have been leaving the ECT gauge like the regular Stingray and making manifold pressure one of the selectable pocket gauge options. Alternatively if the marketing types wanted a prominent boost gauge visible all of the time then I would have preferred that it replace the fuel level gauge instead of the coolant gauge making fuel level a secondary gauge in the configurable display. Short of a massive fuel leak the fuel level readout isn't going to change rapidly and doesn't need constant monitoring but if someone wanted to watch it constantly they would have that choice.
At least we didn't get "idiot style gauges" like some manufacturers used for years with an analog meter style readout that really approximated an idiot light. Several years ago I took a friend for a ride in my GMC Sierra with the Duramax diesel and he told me I needed to stop the engine and check the oil level because the oil pressure gauge was changing with engine speed. He had driven Ford pickups for years and their oil pressure "gauge" implementation would go to the center position as soon as the engine was started and would stay in that same spot without movement regardless of engine RPM and temperature.
...Heck the digital display in the tour mode is better for track use than those poorly presented rolling ball gages. Its obvious they were presented by a programmer far more interested in gee wiz graphics than anyone that actually dove a car before and might need to use them.....
As a programmer who designed operator interface systems for more years than I want admit here, I totally agree. the entire design goal for the C7 seems to have been to market to a younger demographic. Gee wiz graphics and lines were far more important than function. For the C8, PLEASE let the track driver's have more input on function and let the programmers just control the behind the scenes implementation.
Well nice to see they fixed the problem for 17. Yes that is the missing gauge. Its not present on 15s or 16s. Perhaps they could make the software update available for prior year owners. Heck, I'd PAY for it.
Well nice to see they fixed the problem for 17. Yes that is the missing gauge. Its not present on 15s or 16s. Perhaps they could make the software update available for prior year owners. Heck, I'd PAY for it.
Agreed, I would pay for it also. I would like the small gauges in the track screen to just have the numbers.
You will soon find that the water temp gauge in the center display is mostly useless for real world scenarios. Since the red indicator line is always in the center and the scale numbers move behind it, one has to take their eyes off the driving for far too long to decipher is any change as occurred or if approaching a problem. Heck the digital display in the tour mode is better for track use than those poorly presented rolling ball gages. Its obvious they were presented by a programmer far more interested in gee wiz graphics than anyone that actually dove a car before and might need to use them.
I really would like to see this one sent to Tadge, it actually would not be that hard to fix and is an obvious oversight when they reused the display graphics that were developed for the base car in the Z06.
I find it hard to believe that so few drivers are bothered by the missing gage.
It's not obvious to me that the problem was caused by some low level programmer. That's not the sort of thing (interior styling!) that a programmer has any input on.
I suspect this was someone in interior design's idea of a neat thing, and I don't see how this could make it into production without being reviewed and approved by upper management.
It's not obvious to me that the problem was caused by some low level programmer. That's not the sort of thing (interior styling!) that a programmer has any input on.
I suspect this was someone in interior design's idea of a neat thing, and I don't see how this could make it into production without being reviewed and approved by upper management.
Don't blame a lowly worker bee for this issue.
You make the mistake of assuming the stylist or management has the last word on what gets coded. In display layouts like this the design is usually developed by a team of people including a systems engineer, human factors engineer and a programmer. The programmer will design the software flow, what interfaces will provide data for this routine and what the output will look like. Programmer's on teams like this may well have other people reporting to them (including the coders who actually code the software) and could be one of the highest level people on the team.
You make the mistake of assuming the stylist or management has the last word on what gets coded. In display layouts like this the design is usually developed by a team of people including a systems engineer, human factors engineer and a programmer. The programmer will design the software flow, what interfaces will provide data for this routine and what the output will look like. Programmer's on teams like this may well have other people reporting to them (including the coders who actually code the software) and could be one of the highest level people on the team.
Bill
No mistake.
What the hell is management doing for their paycheck if they're not the one's controlling/specifying what's being designed/built/coded?
You appear to make a distinction between programmers and coders. We didn't. In my group (I was an engine control hardware designer) I received the specs on what the hardware needed to do, the software guy wrote the code to enable my hardware to do what his specs told him, and the systems guy combined the hardware and software for tests on the vehicle to confirm that it met the customer's requirements/specs. Any of us three would get our *** fired in a New York minute if we designed or configured a part that intentionally did not meet the customer's or management's specs.
I find it hard to believe that anything in a new Corvette gets out the door without the knowledge/approval/sign-off of the Chief Engineer.
So rather than argue whose fault it is, can we ask to get the 2015 Z06s updated to include the gauge oversight that was fixed in later models? Should be a simple update to add the missing gauge if its already done for the later cars.
Its obvious it was missed as the graphics display was mostly duplicated from the Stingray that had the fixed coolant temp gauge.
I recently took my 2015 Z06 in for some updates to the PDR, climate control, and transmission. When I picked it up. I had the water temp and oil temp set as the pocket gauges in touring mode. I am not sure which update created this new option but glad its there.
So rather than argue whose fault it is, can we ask to get the 2015 Z06s updated to include the gauge oversight that was fixed in later models? Should be a simple update to add the missing gauge if its already done for the later cars.
Its obvious it was missed as the graphics display was mostly duplicated from the Stingray that had the fixed coolant temp gauge.
Merely responding to your claim of whose fault the issue was. It shouldn't come as a surprise that not every one in this forum is necessarily going to agree with you.
01-09-2016, 06:34 PM
No water temp pocket gauge for Z06?
As a programmer who designed operator interface systems for more years than I want admit here, I totally agree. the entire design goal for the C7 seems to have been to market to a younger demographic. Gee wiz graphics and lines were far more important than function. For the C8, PLEASE let the track driver's have more input on function and let the programmers just control the behind the scenes implementation.
