VIR HPDE1 & the "Point By" Racing Team
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VIR HPDE1 & the "Point By" Racing Team
I want to thank my instructor, Rick Pauge, and the rest of the "Point By" Racing Team (working title) for making this weekend an excellent experience for me and my first time out with this car.
It's that type of comradery and encouragement that attracts newbies to a sport. And it is the lack for such institutions that repel newbies away from a sport... I know, I've seen that in action as well.
The HPDE coordinators would be well advised to pair up HPDE1 students with instructors who drive similar cars, at least similar configuration. I've only done one other HPDE1 event, over a year ago, and no offense, but the instructor did not know my car or its capabilities. It seemed as much of a learning experience for him as it was for me. So, that experience was not as rewarding as this past weekend. And to be honest, that, and only that, rewarding feeling will get HPDE1 students to come back and progress through the ranks.
I hope to continue this trend, and, of course, learn from instructors who drive different cars. But, I feel I will learn the most from instructors who drive a car like mine. Not just a vette, but front drive v8 cars that actually have some horsepower, which you can use to help manuever that car around the track.
Looking forward to next time.
It's that type of comradery and encouragement that attracts newbies to a sport. And it is the lack for such institutions that repel newbies away from a sport... I know, I've seen that in action as well.
The HPDE coordinators would be well advised to pair up HPDE1 students with instructors who drive similar cars, at least similar configuration. I've only done one other HPDE1 event, over a year ago, and no offense, but the instructor did not know my car or its capabilities. It seemed as much of a learning experience for him as it was for me. So, that experience was not as rewarding as this past weekend. And to be honest, that, and only that, rewarding feeling will get HPDE1 students to come back and progress through the ranks.
I hope to continue this trend, and, of course, learn from instructors who drive different cars. But, I feel I will learn the most from instructors who drive a car like mine. Not just a vette, but front drive v8 cars that actually have some horsepower, which you can use to help manuever that car around the track.
Looking forward to next time.
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Hey Bob, glad you had a good experience this weekend despite the heat I'll pass it on to Rick.
It's great seeing more and more new people bringing their 'vettes out to the NASA MA events. I think we ended up with 9 or 10 vettes up on 'Corvette Hill' over the weekend. The end-of-day bench racing, swapping lies, adult beverages and socializing is just as big a part of the weekend as the driving itself.
It's great seeing more and more new people bringing their 'vettes out to the NASA MA events. I think we ended up with 9 or 10 vettes up on 'Corvette Hill' over the weekend. The end-of-day bench racing, swapping lies, adult beverages and socializing is just as big a part of the weekend as the driving itself.
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Originally Posted by wallyman424
It was a great weekend. I've got some pretty good video that I'll upload later.
- Walead (still cooling off...)
- Walead (still cooling off...)
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Although I didn't "join" in the actual event until Sunday, I had a blast. I would like to thank the "Gang" for making me feel welcome. Corvette Hill is definately the place to be with Point By Racing. I learned alot in just the one day. I am sorry that I didn't get another day with Mike as my instuctor. We coulda gone places (other than the grass and dirt) I had my first off track excursion in 3 HPDE's and I learned a lot from that also. I will never again take my car on the track with street pads on it. Holy $#!t !!!! I found the limit of thoe pads quickly and backed off a notch or 2. No where near the Carbotechs. That was my first experience with VIR also. What a world class place. NASA is a great group also. It was a pleasure to meet all of you and I hope to do it again soon.
Bob
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Hey Bob. I'm glad you checked in. I was wondering how you fared on the drive to GA. Glad you made it okay.
Checked the calendar for the NCM event at CMP in October and it looks good. Jack and I need to get in touch with Tom or Roc about instructing.
Checked the calendar for the NCM event at CMP in October and it looks good. Jack and I need to get in touch with Tom or Roc about instructing.
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Excellent weekend with NASA-MA. I never got up the hill to go meet you guys. I was over in the corner near the garage. Silver 02 Z06 running in HPDE III for my first time. It was a blast. Very fast moving group and fairly aggressive. It's a whole new ball game passing anywhere with a point-by.
I was up there with a bunch of buddies and we stayed in the hospitality suites so we chose to pit right next to them. Boy it sure makes the trip to the track in the morning nice. All 50ft of it It was nice going to the room to chill out between sessions. It was darned hot out there.
Other than the heat and getting off schedule it was a nice weekend at the track with no incidents for me. Well, except that one off in T3 when I slid onto the grass. No drama and right back on. I was learning to drive with no AH/TC at all and trying to ween myself from Comp Mode. So I guess I'm allowed one screw up...
Graham
I was up there with a bunch of buddies and we stayed in the hospitality suites so we chose to pit right next to them. Boy it sure makes the trip to the track in the morning nice. All 50ft of it It was nice going to the room to chill out between sessions. It was darned hot out there.
Other than the heat and getting off schedule it was a nice weekend at the track with no incidents for me. Well, except that one off in T3 when I slid onto the grass. No drama and right back on. I was learning to drive with no AH/TC at all and trying to ween myself from Comp Mode. So I guess I'm allowed one screw up...
Graham
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Originally Posted by 96LT1
Hey Bob. I'm glad you checked in. I was wondering how you fared on the drive to GA. Glad you made it okay.
Checked the calendar for the NCM event at CMP in October and it looks good. Jack and I need to get in touch with Tom or Roc about instructing.
Checked the calendar for the NCM event at CMP in October and it looks good. Jack and I need to get in touch with Tom or Roc about instructing.
Yup, got to Commerce, Ga last night and called it quits at about midnight. Got a $44 room at the Days Inn and finished it this morning. All paperwork in Ga is done. I am now home and getting ready to head to CT. Leaving in the morning and heading up 95. If you see me WAVE and pull me over cuz I probably need a break
I truly enjoyed myself. I learned a ton and cannot thank you enough. I will be properly prepared next time. I cannot wait to get to run full course and the other one you mentioned. I am looking to plan out the next year. Talk to Tom. Send him a PM. He answers those promptly these days.
Originally Posted by vms4evr
Excellent weekend with NASA-MA. I never got up the hill to go meet you guys. I was over in the corner near the garage. Silver 02 Z06 running in HPDE III for my first time. It was a blast. Very fast moving group and fairly aggressive. It's a whole new ball game passing anywhere with a point-by.
I was up there with a bunch of buddies and we stayed in the hospitality suites so we chose to pit right next to them. Boy it sure makes the trip to the track in the morning nice. All 50ft of it It was nice going to the room to chill out between sessions. It was darned hot out there.
I was up there with a bunch of buddies and we stayed in the hospitality suites so we chose to pit right next to them. Boy it sure makes the trip to the track in the morning nice. All 50ft of it It was nice going to the room to chill out between sessions. It was darned hot out there.
Hope all is well
Bob
Last edited by Kanmer; 07-31-2006 at 10:53 PM.
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Originally Posted by vms4evr
Excellent weekend with NASA-MA. I never got up the hill to go meet you guys. I was over in the corner near the garage. Silver 02 Z06 running in HPDE III for my first time. It was a blast. Very fast moving group and fairly aggressive. It's a whole new ball game passing anywhere with a point-by.
Other than the heat and getting off schedule it was a nice weekend at the track with no incidents for me. Well, except that one off in T3 when I slid onto the grass. No drama and right back on. I was learning to drive with no AH/TC at all and trying to ween myself from Comp Mode. So I guess I'm allowed one screw up...
Graham
Other than the heat and getting off schedule it was a nice weekend at the track with no incidents for me. Well, except that one off in T3 when I slid onto the grass. No drama and right back on. I was learning to drive with no AH/TC at all and trying to ween myself from Comp Mode. So I guess I'm allowed one screw up...
Graham
The heat definitely made for an interesting weekend, that and all the oil dry that had to be put down in T3 and the SNAKE.
Stop by and say Hi if you get a chance next time. We get to all of the NASA MA events except for CMP.
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Originally Posted by 96LT1
Great, I can't wait to see it! I would really like to see the first laps of the last session on Sunday before we caught up with the back markers.
There we go. I like the line for turn 7 on the lap where we passed the cobra between 3-4.
Also, I think theres some to be gained in braking for 4 and then carrying that extra speed into 5 and 5a. That is for another day however...
Now I'm trying to find a way to get out to Mid-Ohio on the 12-13....
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Originally Posted by Kanmer
Howdy,
Ummm, yes you should have come up and said hi...then invited us to your a/c suite. J/K It was HOT. Still fun.
Hope all is well
Bob
Ummm, yes you should have come up and said hi...then invited us to your a/c suite. J/K It was HOT. Still fun.
Hope all is well
Bob
Originally Posted by 96LT1
I got a chance to run the 2nd session on Saturday with HPDEIII. Seemed to be a good bunch of people.
The heat definitely made for an interesting weekend, that and all the oil dry that had to be put down in T3 and the SNAKE.
Stop by and say Hi if you get a chance next time. We get to all of the NASA MA events except for CMP.
The heat definitely made for an interesting weekend, that and all the oil dry that had to be put down in T3 and the SNAKE.
Stop by and say Hi if you get a chance next time. We get to all of the NASA MA events except for CMP.
It was hot enough that it's convinced me to take the rest of the summer off. Otherwise I'd be down at Road Atlanta with NASA-SE. I'm sure I'll catch up to you guys somewhere.
I didn't see a 96 coupe out there in GR III. There were 3 Silver Vettes. A C4 race prepped, my C5, and a C6. Had fun with those guys and 3 P-cars that were quick. It was a good group to run with, aggressive but good communication with hand signals. And no one gave me the International Passing Signal this weekend. That was a plus
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Originally Posted by 96LT1
Hey Bob. I'm glad you checked in. I was wondering how you fared on the drive to GA. Glad you made it okay.
Checked the calendar for the NCM event at CMP in October and it looks good. Jack and I need to get in touch with Tom or Roc about instructing.
Checked the calendar for the NCM event at CMP in October and it looks good. Jack and I need to get in touch with Tom or Roc about instructing.
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Originally Posted by vms4evr
I didn't see a 96 coupe out there in GR III. There were 3 Silver Vettes. A C4 race prepped, my C5, and a C6. Had fun with those guys and 3 P-cars that were quick. It was a good group to run with, aggressive but good communication with hand signals. And no one gave me the International Passing Signal this weekend. That was a plus
Graham
Graham
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Originally Posted by Kanmer
Thats because he was running incognito. He runs a black C5 Z06. He can run but he can't hide He is also a very good instructor. He is also a bit ....well a lot
Bob
Bob
I can appreciate your feelings about the instructors. I have had 3 really good instuctors and 1 that just spent a session with me to help me tighten up the line. They're all a "little touched". Think about it. They jump in a Vette with a total stranger on track! Then they take you out in their car. It isn't to show you the line. It's to try and scare the crap out of you to get even!
But my hat is off to them and I really appreciate all the help I've been given.
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Originally Posted by vms4evr
Oh ok. I saw a black Z06 with the numbers 455 in gold or something like that. The one I just couldn't miss was the black one with the big blue/white sheriffs badge on it. That makes a statement!
I love my sheriff stars.
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Originally Posted by vms4evr
Oh ok. I saw a black Z06 with the numbers 455 in gold or something like that.
Originally Posted by vms4evr
The one I just couldn't miss was the black one with the big blue/white sheriffs badge on it. That makes a statement!
Originally Posted by vms4evr
I can appreciate your feelings about the instructors. I have had 3 really good instuctors and 1 that just spent a session with me to help me tighten up the line. They're all a "little touched". Think about it. They jump in a Vette with a total stranger on track! Then they take you out in their car. It isn't to show you the line. It's to try and scare the crap out of you to get even!
But my hat is off to them and I really appreciate all the help I've been given.
But my hat is off to them and I really appreciate all the help I've been given.
It was great to meet all of you.
Bob (the other one)
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Originally Posted by vms4evr
Yeah I should have dragged my lazy butt up the hill. I usually hang out with the BPKM gang (they're a bad influence but they've been great instructors and have taught me a lot). So this weekend I just chilled with my buddies from the local club I'm a member of.
It was hot enough that it's convinced me to take the rest of the summer off. Otherwise I'd be down at Road Atlanta with NASA-SE. I'm sure I'll catch up to you guys somewhere.
I didn't see a 96 coupe out there in GR III. There were 3 Silver Vettes. A C4 race prepped, my C5, and a C6. Had fun with those guys and 3 P-cars that were quick. It was a good group to run with, aggressive but good communication with hand signals. And no one gave me the International Passing Signal this weekend. That was a plus
Graham
It was hot enough that it's convinced me to take the rest of the summer off. Otherwise I'd be down at Road Atlanta with NASA-SE. I'm sure I'll catch up to you guys somewhere.
I didn't see a 96 coupe out there in GR III. There were 3 Silver Vettes. A C4 race prepped, my C5, and a C6. Had fun with those guys and 3 P-cars that were quick. It was a good group to run with, aggressive but good communication with hand signals. And no one gave me the International Passing Signal this weekend. That was a plus
Graham
By the way, the BPKM crowd is a known bad influence ......
jeff
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Originally Posted by ramairbrc
.....The HPDE coordinators would be well advised to pair up HPDE1 students with instructors who drive similar cars, at least similar configuration. ......I hope to continue this trend, and, of course, learn from instructors who drive different cars. But, I feel I will learn the most from instructors who drive a car like mine. Not just a vette, but front drive v8 cars that actually have some horsepower, which you can use to help manuever that car around the track.
Looking forward to next time.
Looking forward to next time.
Glad to see you had a good time. Most groups do try to match up instructors to similar cars - but it does not always happen. I have had some pretty dismal "instruction" myself over the last few years. There is a pretty good cadre of Vette instructors out there now....
jeff
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Originally Posted by wallyman424
I love my sheriff stars.
Then I went up on the deck in front of my room and waited for you to go by. That's when I could actually make out what it was. Too funny. Something to do with, "Watch out, there's a new sheriff in town..."