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Old 09-04-2006, 03:40 PM
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Default Will 200 lbs added to C6R be needed at Le Mans?

Apparently, to level the playing field for Aston Martin, Corvette Racing has had to add 200 lbs to the C6-R and use restricted breathing for the ALMS series to at least make it somewhat interesting for fans other than Vette fans to watch (how silly). Those were likely contributing factors to the loss yesterday at Mosport. Do the same limitations apply to the real Le Mans race, too?

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i think that there are some restriction just not sure what they are.
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LeMans is 9 months away, the rules could change 9 time by then.
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Originally Posted by vette ruminator
Apparently, to level the playing field for Aston Martin, Corvette Racing has had to add 200 lbs to the C6-R and use restricted breathing for the ALMS series to at least somewhat interesting for fans other than Vette fans to watch (how silly). Those were likely contributing factors to the loss yesterday at Mosport. Do the same limitations apply to the real Le Mans race, too?

To level the playing field? Why wont Aston Martin lose 200lbs and improve their breathing instead?
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Yea i saw that, wasnt he leading in the last 30 mins and lost it somehow? I missed it at the end....any details?
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Yea i saw that, wasnt he leading in the last 30 mins and lost it somehow? I missed it at the end....any details?
The vettes tried to conserve fuel and tires and not pit late, but Aston's newer tires and (unrestricted) straight line speed put them over the top in the last few laps. I saw an interview with Ron Fellows at Road America and he sounded jokingly pessimistic about winning at Mosport. I wonder if he was alluding to the fact that Mosport seems better set up for straight line speed instead of hard braking and cornering needed for the slower turns at Road America...
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Originally Posted by timd38
LeMans is 9 months away, the rules could change 9 time by then.
Wrong answer--the Rules are made by the French,therefore the rules might change at least a 100 times before,during and after the race.
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Originally Posted by 65vetteC6
Yea i saw that, wasnt he leading in the last 30 mins and lost it somehow? I missed it at the end....any details?
If Ford sells AM,will there be anyone to race next year in ALMS?
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The so-called 'equalization process' is a nightmare....the politics of auto racing at its' finest where no good deed goes unpunished.
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Originally Posted by Z11409
Wrong answer--the Rules are made by the French,therefore the rules might change at least a 100 times before,during and after the race.

The good news is that the French hate both Corvette AND AM
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Originally Posted by IS300_to_C5
To level the playing field? Why wont Aston Martin lose 200lbs and improve their breathing instead?

It seems easier to hurt the leader than to help the looser. They tried to help the Saleens and Vipers and Ferraris but that didn't work, so they are hurting the Corvettes.

The added weight does more than just hurt acceleration and braking, it also screws up suspension geometry and parts longevity.
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Unless the Corvette restrictions are removed or the AMs brake, Road Atlanta is going to be a GT1 joke..


I sure was happy to see the Ferraris beating the P-Cars for a change though
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Originally Posted by johnodrake
It seems easier to hurt the leader than to help the looser. They tried to help the Saleens and Vipers and Ferraris but that didn't work, so they are hurting the Corvettes.

The added weight does more than just hurt acceleration and braking, it also screws up suspension geometry and parts longevity.
I watched the race and the post race interview given by the AM winner driver. I started yelling at the TV when the driver started talking about how they had finally gotten the AM sorted out. How the AM was now performing up to it's potential. Didn't say anything bad about the C6R only said it was just a matter of time until the AM was dominant.
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Originally Posted by Z11409
Wrong answer--the Rules are made by the French,therefore the rules might change at least a 100 times before,during and after the race.
How do they even race in France? Every lap is a last lap with all the WHITE flags waving!
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Originally Posted by Z11409
If Ford sells AM,will there be anyone to race next year in ALMS?
Do you know something we don't? I haven't heard anything about Aston being sold. BTW, you are right about GT1 in ALMS, how many GT1 cars were in the field at Mosport yesterday?

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Originally Posted by jimmyb
Do you know something we don't? I haven't heard anything about Aston being sold. BTW, you are right about GT1 in ALMS, how many GT1 cars were in the field at Mosport yesterday?

Jimmy
It's been down to just 4 entries in GT1 in at least the last few races: 2 vettes, 2 DB9's. Not too hard to get at least 3rd place in that field!
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
The so-called 'equalization process' is a nightmare....the politics of auto racing at its' finest where no good deed goes unpunished.
Racing used to be "run what ya brung", survival of the fittest, whatever. Seems like all of the various racing series, from NASCAR to Formula 1, have degernerated into winning by decree.

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Old 09-04-2006, 09:21 PM
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New rules for the next race will require the Corvette to tow a 28' RV and run on Diesel fuel. We wouldn't want the Limeys to pack up and go home because they can't keep up, would we?
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Originally Posted by vette ruminator
It's been down to just 4 entries in GT1 in at least the last few races: 2 vettes, 2 DB9's. Not too hard to get at least 3rd place in that field!
It's really pathetic... the mighty P-cars claim they cannot compete with the vettes without a total redesign so they stay with GT-2! If they competed they could make the vettes do something like TOW a trailer to make it competitive. The F-cars are also an out moded design and won’t or can't compete. Sort of tells you a little about engineering if you ask me........
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Originally Posted by cthusker
It's really pathetic... the mighty P-cars claim they cannot compete with the vettes without a total redesign so they stay with GT-2! If they competed they could make the vettes do something like TOW a trailer to make it competitive. The F-cars are also an out moded design and won’t or can't compete. Sort of tells you a little about engineering if you ask me........
To be fair for the sake of discussion, I posed the question months ago as to why have the various classes for the Le Mans series. I thought it would be cool to have the cars all race in maybe 2 classes, prototype and production. A few weeks ago, I was at the Road America race and having seen the GT1 and GT2 cars and read a bit about them, it does make sense to keep them separate because of the obviously higher level of modification to full race car (very little street-level parts, if any) in GT1, compared to GT2. GT2 cars like the Porsche 911 GT3 RSR are actually for sale and can even be toned down to make them street legal (reminiscent of Ferrari F40), and have lower horsepower, etc. What would be fun to watch is a Vette ZO6 in GT2 form stomping on the Porsches, Ferrari, Panoz, etc. in head-to-head battle.


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