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Old 11-21-2006, 02:03 PM
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Default C4 - Power steering problem at high RPMs

I know it is a well known fact that the C4 power steering system is not the greatest. My 1996 GS came with a cooler, but I know it still gets plenty warm. I also get a bit of blow by out the resevoir cap when on the track.

However I am starting to notice that I have to wrestle the wheel a lot more in tight corners while at high RPMs on road course. I run 315's all around...

What is the solution for this and having better steering imput at all RPMs? Does someone make a better pump?

Old 11-21-2006, 02:51 PM
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My pump was replaced under warranty after the second track event. Tight corners at GingerMan would cause it to loose pressure.

Everything was fine for 3 seasons and then it started popping hoses and steel lines. I suspect it was sucking air at high RPM and the pump was cavitating. Sold car to a waxer and he has no problems since (on street).
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When I have trouble, I'll contact Turn One. Some links to
testimonials in the post below

power steering pump ? Upgrade?

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Old 11-21-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
When I have trouble, I'll contact Turn One. Some links to
testimonials in the post below

power steering pump ? Upgrade?

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I have a Turn-one rebuilt pump in my track-only C4. It's held up flawlessly for at least 30 competitive events at tracks from 1.5 to 4.1 miles. Send the pump and the pulley...costs more in shipping but saves you the hassle of removing the pulley!

You should also get the braided steel line for the high pressure line from the pump. Mine cracked twice at the fitting. DRM sells it but you have to call and ask as it's not on the web site anymore.
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Originally Posted by UstaB-GS549
My pump was replaced under warranty after the second track event. Tight corners at GingerMan would cause it to loose pressure.
That top Avatar photo looks like you're cresting the hill onto the straight at Grattan, not Gingerman
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Originally Posted by ScaryFast
That top Avatar photo looks like you're cresting the hill onto the straight at Grattan, not Gingerman
Looks like there is way too much runoff to be Grattan!
We installed a front mounted cooler after we pulled the a/c and it seems to be better than what it was previous. It was just a cookie cutter trans cooler out of summit.
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Send your pump to Turn One. It's well worth it.
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Thanks for all the advice. Going to call Turnone.
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Are you using mineral or synthetic p/s fluid?

How long since the last flush?

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I am using synthetic. Last flush wasn't very long ago as I blew a power steering hose on the track less than a 1000 miles back!

Talked with Turnone
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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:32:16 PM
Subject: Re: 1996 C4 Power Steering pump.

First I need to ask you a question, does the power steering pump run off the back side of the belt? This will help me verify the type of pump you have. My guess is that it is a reverse rotation pump. If so, we will have to rebuild yours. The cost for this is $100, plus the cost of any parts that need to be replaced.

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Not at home so I will have to look at the pump, but sounds like it has to be sent in.
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Originally Posted by qwik96GS
Not at home so I will have to look at the pump...
Does this help?

Compliments of Schram Auto


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Originally Posted by ScaryFast
That top Avatar photo looks like you're cresting the hill onto the straight at Grattan, not Gingerman
You are absolutely right.

The first hose to pop was at Grattan (shortly after that photo was taken), then Blackhawk, GingerMan and finally early Saturday morning at Road America. The RA event was a 2 day, so that was the straw that broke the camels back.
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Hi,

Year:1992
Underdriven crank pulley with redline-it has been ok since around 2004 with several track events.

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I have the turn 1 pump. it's perfectly streeable, but it does groan at times at low rpms, not too bad though.
for the track it's perfect.

my fluid used to boil, foam, whine.
.... no more.
Old 11-25-2006, 01:11 PM
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Default Lee Mfg pump rebuild

This topic has been discussed endlessly, but I cannot find the old posts. Did the forum erase old info?

Anyway, I rebuilt my LT4 pump at Lee Mfg 818-768-0371 Sun Valley, CA.
with a lower voulme gerotor. This solved the overheat problem.
http://www.leepowersteering.com/

Using Lee mineral fluid also helps.

The LT4 has the smallest pulley, no underdrive possible.

Be sure to mention that the pump is reverse rotation.....

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