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Old 12-27-2006, 01:42 AM
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:16 AM
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There were rumors a while back about 1 of the big 3 leaving NASCAR to focus on GT racing. I had assumed that it was going to be Ford. Anyone know why Ford isn't funding this?
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Huh.... that seems all over the board. They talk VW (porsche) and Ferrari like the car would go GT2, then they say Vette and VW (never seen a GT1 VW) in GT1....

That would be fly to have the Panoz, Ferrari, (someone should by Tom Milners BMW's and run them), doodle bugs (VW(porsche)), and a Ford GT battling it out .... then in LeMans, add the Spykers and maybe the TVR's. That would be a race!
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They can take the C6R's place when they pull out of the ALMS and go elsewhere.....

The NCM magazine had a good article about how the Corvette team is pretty fed up with the handicaps they had to deal with this year. I'm sure they are just showing their displeasure with ALMS and will be back in '07. I would like to see the C6R battling (aka beating) the Ford and the Aston Martin.
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It will be interesting to see what they really try to do. They talk about running with the "Corvette and Porsche in GT1". Well, Porsche doesn't run GT1 of ALMS. However, Corvette and Porsche are classed the same in the Grand Am series.

Can the Ford GT really run with the Pratt-Miller and Prodrive teams of ALMS?

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Originally Posted by boerio
It will be interesting to see what they really try to do. They talk about running with the "Corvette and Porsche in GT1". Well, Porsche doesn't run GT1 of ALMS. However, Corvette and Porsche are classed the same in the Grand Am series.

Can the Ford GT really run with the Pratt-Miller and Prodrive teams of ALMS?

Jeff
When one looks close at that web site the info is 6+ months old. Hard to take seriosly with old and misinformation.

The GT40s engine is too big for the Grand Am races. However, the SCCA is allowing the GT40 to race in the new Super Touring group with the C6Z.
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pretty corny website...they seem pretty confident.
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Originally Posted by 95jersey
pretty corny website...they seem pretty confident.
Heh. Have to sound confident if you want to attract investors. Think they should cut the clip about running mid-pack, however

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3 months till Sebring...

Why do I picture that GT40 as being as successful as the Lambo's were (with Barber?)....

If you look at the info for Lemans Endurance Series, there seem to be a few more of those Panoz things floating around.... Also, Luc Alpinestar Adventures (no idea what the real name is) is running a C6R.

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That's what Ford should have done with the GT when it came out. Maybe they wouldn't be in such a state if they did. Look what ALMS has done for Audi.
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Originally Posted by 72vette_454
The NCM magazine had a good article about how the Corvette team is pretty fed up with the handicaps they had to deal with this year. I'm sure they are just showing their displeasure with ALMS and will be back in '07. I would like to see the C6R battling (aka beating) the Ford and the Aston Martin.
The NCM article was garbage. Received mine the week before Christmas, already had the news Chevy is returning to GT1 from the week prior. I know the NCM is not trying to be the racing mag, but when stuff is months old.... it's pointless. Unless you are one the old farts that is getting the rag for free from buying your new C6. Then just flip through looking for tacky appearance mods.

As far as Ford GT being competetive in GT1 first season. Not going to happen. Took Corvette several years to do so, and then Prodrive had experience with other cars before taking on Aston as their ride, and they still haven't won a Championship. Ford would be flat out embarassed.

Besides, I don't think this guy has the funds to support a full season of ALMS.
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Originally Posted by Jeffvette
The NCM article was garbage. Received mine the week before Christmas, already had the news Chevy is returning to GT1 from the week prior. I know the NCM is not trying to be the racing mag, but when stuff is months old.... it's pointless. Unless you are one the old farts that is getting the rag for free from buying your new C6. Then just flip through looking for tacky appearance mods.

As far as Ford GT being competetive in GT1 first season. Not going to happen. Took Corvette several years to do so, and then Prodrive had experience with other cars before taking on Aston as their ride, and they still haven't won a Championship. Ford would be flat out embarassed.

Besides, I don't think this guy has the funds to support a full season of ALMS.
Like someone else mentioned, the information on the web site could be as much as six months old. Maybe more money has materialized since then

I agree though, that it will be difficult for these guys to be competitive out of the gate.

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
When one looks close at that web site the info is 6+ months old. Hard to take seriosly with old and misinformation.

The GT40s engine is too big for the Grand Am races. However, the SCCA is allowing the GT40 to race in the new Super Touring group with the C6Z.
The comment of the aluminum chassis so well engineered??? Humm, when torn apart, both of their chassis are practically identical. I guess history once again repeats itself. In 1947 the Russian TU-4 was introduced to the World. Not to say that the Russians were not capable of engineering such a plane but it was built three years after the Russians interned the crew of a B-29 that was forced to divert to the Soviet Union.
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Holman & Moody have an ORIGINAL GT40 for sale.

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Porsche in GT1?

I'm surprised that the Saleen competes in FIA GT Championship, but doesn't compete in the ALMS.
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Originally Posted by Lancer033


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There were rumors a while back about 1 of the big 3 leaving NASCAR to focus on GT racing. I had assumed that it was going to be Ford. Anyone know why Ford isn't funding this?
If you mortgaged everythink you own like Ford just did I am sure you would be pinching pennies also. There still may be a NASCAR drop out. THey have a hard road ahead.


The GT-40 from them is One million bucks or more and they can make them for you if you have the coin. I sent them an email and it was big money.

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Old 12-30-2006, 08:45 PM
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Why do I picture that GT40 as being as successful as the Lambo's were (with Barber?)....
because Doran is building the car.

http://www.doranracing.com/

Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
That's what Ford should have done with the GT when it came out. Maybe they wouldn't be in such a state if they did. Look what ALMS has done for Audi.
They still sell fwd sedans and launched an suv recently. Where are their diesels?

Originally Posted by Jeffvette
As far as Ford GT being competetive in GT1 first season. Not going to happen. Took Corvette several years to do so, and then Prodrive had experience with other cars before taking on Aston as their ride, and they still haven't won a Championship.
An Aston Martin team won the GT1 team championship in LMS in 2006.

Originally Posted by xsiveone
I'm surprised that the Saleen competes in FIA GT Championship, but doesn't compete in the ALMS.
Terry Borcheller told me in an email that Jeff Giangrande spent $4 million in 2005. Jeff owned the ACEMCO Motorsports team.

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They still sell fwd sedans and launched an suv recently. Where are their diesels?
Notice they pulled the diesel V10 Toureg off the market after 1 year. The quality of the US diesel was causing issues. Diesel in the states sucks. Go look at the ratio of petrol Vs Diesel in Europe.

An Aston Martin team won the GT1 team championship in LMS in 2006.
Let me know when that translates into a ALMS win over the factory Corvette team.
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Huh.... $5 mill for a year of GT1 is pretty damn cheap. I'm guessing GM's budget is about 2x that.


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