61driver

Hello all, I have a C-1 I am thinking of selling and buying a c-4 to race. I would like to race wheel to wheel road races in th SE. ( I am in TN). Which NASA category does that fall in and what would a competive car cost to buy and race. Thanks in advance for the help.

MAC95 6SPD

I dont want to hijack this from the NASA idea but you might want to consider the TCC. TCCracing.com We race road atlanta, mid ohio, VIR, watkins glen normally each year. You would be right in the middle for most of our events. It is a little more travel than the local NASA events but we get up to 20 corvettes for some of the weekends. It is very competitive racing and a great group of racers. We race mostly SCCA events, doubles.
As far as a competitive car you could buy Chuck MacTrinders TCC traditional car. I dont think he has lost a race in it for the past number of years. He is on the forum here so he might jump in to the discussion and give you a price. I believe it was in the 20 to 25K range. For a fully sorted winning car.
As far as NASA I don't know how competitive our cars would be straight away in their series.

MAC

wtknght1

You could also consider getting a C5 or C6 and racing T1 (Touring 1) in the SCCA. We have a great bunch of folks and our season has already started at Sebring and then just a week later at Homestead. It's a great winter vacation!!!

Our next event is at Carolina Motorsports Park in Kershaw, SC. If you're interested, let me know and I'll put you on my crew list and you can come see for yourself.

All the different series/clubs have their pros and cons and I doubt you'll go wrong with any of them. You'll have a blast!!!!! Good luck to you!!

AU N EGL

The above two are excellent ideas

NASA for a corvette is most based on wt to power.

Super Touring 1 ( ST1)= "adjusted" wt/hp ratio equal to, or greater than, 5.50:1
Super Touring 2 ( ST2)= "adjusted" wt/hp ratio equal to, or greater than, 8.70:1

Less then 5.50:1 would be SU or Super Unlimited.

There are also some adjustments for verious modifications for ex
Non-DOT approved tires vs DOT approved tires would add a change to the ratio
Tire size increase over stock sizes would add a change to the ratio

The SCCA T1 prepped car would most likley fit into the NASA ST2 class.

example: 3400 lbs ( car + driver+ fuel ) / 385 RWHP = 8.83 or Class ST2

Obviously the closer to that ratio number the better.

A used C5Z06 built for SCCA T1 racing could run 32 to $45,000 depending on use. would mostly likely be very competitive.

a Speed World Challange prepared Corvette would be competitive in ST1.

SU is for NASCAR road racing cars plus other monsters powerplants in light wt cars

HTH

BrianCunningham

C4's make excellant road race cars.

TCC is a great series if they run in your area.
http://www.tccracing.com/main.htm
Here's a good 'getting started' page
http://www.tccracing.com/gettingstarted.htm

Jaymz

I am also going to recommend NASA and the new ST class. As AN N EGL stated above with the class rules. The ST class at NASA is the easiest way to get into a race car and build it your way. With the other groups you have to follow a rulebook on what you can and can not do to your car.

ST2 would be a perfect fit a C4.

If you are interested I have a C5 ST1 car for sale. It's 38k. Cheaper than my T1 car and a lot faster too.

redvetracr

how do they (NASA) determine your HP?? and would they allow a C-3 (like the one below) in "SU"?
...redvetracr

AU N EGL

NASA requires you to provide a NASA certifid dyno chart from a NASA dyno shop. and produce that chart on demand. Without the chart I think you go into SU.

PPL can go UP a class if you choose too. If you run NON-DOT slicks your in SU no matter what the ratio is.

So going to DOT tires is easy to do.

The NASA ST rules are on this forum page
http://www.nasaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=18

cnewman57

If you're in TN, there's a lot of options for a C4.

I'm running mine in :

American V8 Supercar Series ( www.av8ss.com )
Atlanta Region SCCA's ITO class ( www.atl-scca.org )
NASA

ITO uses a list of Pro rules from WCGT, Grand Am, AV8SS and a couple of other series. A C4 set up for ST would be legal in all of them.

The really cool thing about ITO and AV8SS is that the races are all at Nashville Super Speedway, Road Atlanta, and VIR. Much better for someone from the Southeast.

Chuck Newman
#92 ITO

redvetracr

I guess my car would fall into SU, which is fine. It looks like they are going to Road America twice, which is the only reason I would do this. Would you suggest I contact the midwest guy, whose office is only about 25 minutes from me as to the rules or are the written rules somewhat different from whats "really" allowed??
...redvetracr

Jaymz

Tom, ST1 and ST2 can run non DOT tires they will just have to take the -.75 correction factor.

One advantage NASA has over all of the other regional ideas here is that they have a National Championship. (Think Runoffs for the SCCA folks)

Jaymz

If you have any questions about it I am the regional director for ST in Ohio/Indiana and can help. If you are planning on running 2 weekends (4 races) then you might want to race an additional race and qualify for the Championships in September.

AU N EGL

We can?? Oh yah. damn I have to get the cage in and few other preps. Well it will be sometime this year.

redvetracr

the NASA midwest schedule shows two Road America dates but the R/A website shows only one (August).....this may sound silly but I am only interested in racing at Road America.
...redvetracr

AU N EGL

Mid Oct NASA is also at Road America, or has been in the past

redvetracr

yes, R/A in Oct is listed on the NASA site but not at the R/A site...they must have not gone to R/A in `06 as there are no race results posted...if they did go in `05 or `06 I would like to take a look at lap times for SU...anyone have a link??
...redvetracr

PS: do they allow "rookies" with experience in SU??

Jaymz

Redvetracr. Do you have a racing license from another racing group?

redvetracr

not wanting to hijack this thread any further, I sent you an e-mail.
...redvetracr

61driver

Thanks for all the replies. Looks like I have a bunch more websites and organizations to check out. I'll be back with more questions soon.

Ray