Cheating in racing, NASCAR, NO!
02-13-2007, 08:10 PM
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Cheating in racing, NASCAR, NO!
NASCAR fined the crew chiefs for Matt Kenseth, Kasey Kahne, Scott Riggs and Elliott Sadler and docking all four drivers points before the season-opening Daytona 500 for failing inspections.
http://www.comcast.net/sports/index....13/586264.html
http://www.comcast.net/sports/index....13/586264.html
02-14-2007, 10:27 AM
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Can't wait to see what Toyota gets nailed for. They look for the slightest advantage in NASCAR. Guess a 1 foot after 2.64 million is still a win.
50,000 fine each crew chief
http://www.speedtv.com/articles/nascar/nextel/35357/
50,000 fine each crew chief
http://www.speedtv.com/articles/nascar/nextel/35357/
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02-14-2007, 07:00 PM
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can't wait to see this!
The first potential ToMoCo slight of the day involved the NASCAR.com website, but the second's coming directly from NASCAR officials track-side. Michael Waltrip's being accused of potentially using "an undetermined substance in the intake manifold" of his bright and shiny new Toyota by officials during normal inspections before qualifying runs today. NASCAR officials then confiscated the manifold, causing "widespread speculation among rival teams in the garage area that Waltrip's team could put an illegal fuel additive in its manifold to increase engine combustion." After the qualifying race, officials confiscated the entire car for an indeterminate period of time while the manifold's going back to NASCAR's testing labs to determine if the substance was merely an oil leak or part of some "potential cheating scandal." I remember when Dodge first re-entered NASCAR with the "Intrepid" in 2000, similar concerns of potential tampering of engines and use of additives were levied against the teams. The only difference was Dodge drivers were finishing 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th in qualifying runs -- not 15th, 16th, 18th, 39th... – Ray Wert
Toyotas underwhelming in Daytona pole qualifying [MSNBC]
The first potential ToMoCo slight of the day involved the NASCAR.com website, but the second's coming directly from NASCAR officials track-side. Michael Waltrip's being accused of potentially using "an undetermined substance in the intake manifold" of his bright and shiny new Toyota by officials during normal inspections before qualifying runs today. NASCAR officials then confiscated the manifold, causing "widespread speculation among rival teams in the garage area that Waltrip's team could put an illegal fuel additive in its manifold to increase engine combustion." After the qualifying race, officials confiscated the entire car for an indeterminate period of time while the manifold's going back to NASCAR's testing labs to determine if the substance was merely an oil leak or part of some "potential cheating scandal." I remember when Dodge first re-entered NASCAR with the "Intrepid" in 2000, similar concerns of potential tampering of engines and use of additives were levied against the teams. The only difference was Dodge drivers were finishing 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th in qualifying runs -- not 15th, 16th, 18th, 39th... – Ray Wert
Toyotas underwhelming in Daytona pole qualifying [MSNBC]
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02-14-2007, 07:02 PM
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NOT a good start for TOYOTA.
Nor for the other Crew Chiefs. But hey Maybe they should be congratulated for bending the rules.
Where did nascar start ?? oh yah, Running shine from the "Authorites"
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02-14-2007, 07:03 PM
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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. - Michael Waltrip will race on Thursday — with his tail between his legs — in a backup No. 55 car for the Gatorade Duel, provided it passes inspection before the first race.
But Waltrip will be racing without crew chief David Hyder or Michael Waltrip Racing VP of competition Bobby Kennedy.
Penalties at a glance
Docked 100 driver and owner points
Michael Waltrip's qualifying time disallowed
Michael Waltrip's crew chief, David Hyder, ejected and suspended indefinitely, fined $100,000.
Michael Waltrip Racing's VP of competition, Bobby Kennedy, ejected and suspended indefinitely.
NASCAR's VP of communication Jim Hunter announced at Daytona International Speedway on Wednesday that Hyder has been fined a record $100,000 and Waltrip's team and owner Buffy Waltrip were docked 100 championship points for various rule violations.
NASCAR announced that it has confiscated the primary car of the No. 55 Toyota team which competes in the NASCAR Nextel Cup as a result of rules violations found during pre- and post- competition inspection for the Daytona. 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing), 12-4-Q (car, car parts components and/or equipment not conforming to NASCAR rules) and 20-15.2C (gasoline must not be blended with alcohols, ethers or other oxygenates).
"They came to the line pre-qualifying, they went to install the restrictor plate. The inspector found a substance in the intake manifold that was not like anything he had seen in the inspection process," said NASCAR VP of competition Robin Pemberton.
"The substance was also found after the manifold was replaced. The additive was in the fuel system and the fuel line. We feel fairly confident that it was not in the intake manifold itself."
The primary No. 55 car has been transported to North Carolina for further inspection.
Kennedy and Hyder were both ejected from the garage. Both are under indefinite suspension. Neither crewmen will be able to appeal their penalties.
On Wednesday morning, Lee White, senior VP and GM of Toyota Racing Development expressed his concerns about the future relationship between Toyota and Michael Waltrip Racing.
"Depending on what the outcome is obviously we will have some further discussions with that team and decide what our relationship is going to be in the future," White said. "But like these guys say, the rules are the rules. We expect to participate by the rules. We hold our own people to a very high standard and certainly we hope that we've partnered with the right people that hold their people to a high standard."
Although teams continue to look for competitive advantages, NASCAR treats violations dealing with fuel, engines and tires more seriously. NASCAR's spanking of No. 12 car team owner Michael Kranefuss to the tune of 151 points and $50,000 for unapproved fuel additives at Talladega in 2000 is a perfect example.
Rick Hendrick, whose crew chief Chad Knaus was sidelined for the 2006 Daytona 500, said, "I guess what (NASCAR is) trying to do is send a clear message that they don't want to have to deal with it. I guess this is just the way they chose to handle it. Its unfortunate for those guys that are going through it, but its just I think they're trying to get a handle on it.
"It's hard for NASCAR to police it, you know they can't write the rules fast enough, these guys are so smart they find a way around it."
But Waltrip will be racing without crew chief David Hyder or Michael Waltrip Racing VP of competition Bobby Kennedy.
Penalties at a glance
Docked 100 driver and owner points
Michael Waltrip's qualifying time disallowed
Michael Waltrip's crew chief, David Hyder, ejected and suspended indefinitely, fined $100,000.
Michael Waltrip Racing's VP of competition, Bobby Kennedy, ejected and suspended indefinitely.
NASCAR's VP of communication Jim Hunter announced at Daytona International Speedway on Wednesday that Hyder has been fined a record $100,000 and Waltrip's team and owner Buffy Waltrip were docked 100 championship points for various rule violations.
NASCAR announced that it has confiscated the primary car of the No. 55 Toyota team which competes in the NASCAR Nextel Cup as a result of rules violations found during pre- and post- competition inspection for the Daytona. 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing), 12-4-Q (car, car parts components and/or equipment not conforming to NASCAR rules) and 20-15.2C (gasoline must not be blended with alcohols, ethers or other oxygenates).
"They came to the line pre-qualifying, they went to install the restrictor plate. The inspector found a substance in the intake manifold that was not like anything he had seen in the inspection process," said NASCAR VP of competition Robin Pemberton.
"The substance was also found after the manifold was replaced. The additive was in the fuel system and the fuel line. We feel fairly confident that it was not in the intake manifold itself."
The primary No. 55 car has been transported to North Carolina for further inspection.
Kennedy and Hyder were both ejected from the garage. Both are under indefinite suspension. Neither crewmen will be able to appeal their penalties.
On Wednesday morning, Lee White, senior VP and GM of Toyota Racing Development expressed his concerns about the future relationship between Toyota and Michael Waltrip Racing.
"Depending on what the outcome is obviously we will have some further discussions with that team and decide what our relationship is going to be in the future," White said. "But like these guys say, the rules are the rules. We expect to participate by the rules. We hold our own people to a very high standard and certainly we hope that we've partnered with the right people that hold their people to a high standard."
Although teams continue to look for competitive advantages, NASCAR treats violations dealing with fuel, engines and tires more seriously. NASCAR's spanking of No. 12 car team owner Michael Kranefuss to the tune of 151 points and $50,000 for unapproved fuel additives at Talladega in 2000 is a perfect example.
Rick Hendrick, whose crew chief Chad Knaus was sidelined for the 2006 Daytona 500, said, "I guess what (NASCAR is) trying to do is send a clear message that they don't want to have to deal with it. I guess this is just the way they chose to handle it. Its unfortunate for those guys that are going through it, but its just I think they're trying to get a handle on it.
"It's hard for NASCAR to police it, you know they can't write the rules fast enough, these guys are so smart they find a way around it."
02-14-2007, 08:03 PM
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:o :oWhen watching and from what they said I said to Edith it may be something like sterno to boost octane. May be we can run it in HPDE also if they start canning it like Spam.
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02-14-2007, 08:19 PM
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02-14-2007, 08:54 PM
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According to NASCAR is was NOT sterno and NOT aviation fuel. They do however say it was in the fuel. Either way he's gonna race in his team mates back-up car. 
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02-14-2007, 09:44 PM
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Awe I'm sure it was just some residual "Riceoil" that is used to protect the engine internals from the saltwater air durring the transportation of engines and fuel system componants from Japan. 
02-15-2007, 09:05 AM
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Did you hear racer and commentator Kenny Wallace say the $100K fine is NOTHING when you have a $20M deal? (I would have to agree). If NASCAR wanted to make a "real" statment they would send MW home, (I think he is going home after today anyway.....), chances are good most of the Toyota teams will go home after today...Dale Jarrett is ONLY in the race because of his past championship provisional (which is a joke in itself, and probably the reason MW racing hired him...his guaranteed starting spot)....Not starting Daytona will put all the new teams in a hole for the first part of the season and kill their chances of making the "chase"....thanks to the "protective" NASCAR rules.
...redvetracr
PS: looking at the Camry race car it`s better looking than that thing from Dodge.....on the track OR on the street, that new Charger is FUGLY. And don`t even get me started on the COT (car of tomorrow)....
...redvetracr
PS: looking at the Camry race car it`s better looking than that thing from Dodge.....on the track OR on the street, that new Charger is FUGLY. And don`t even get me started on the COT (car of tomorrow)....