Any opinions on C4 bilstein autocross shocks
#1
Any opinions on C4 bilstein autocross shocks
Eckler's has the regular and Z51 shocks, but they also list an autocross specific shock that I don't see listed anywhere else.
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...&dept%5Fid=239
I bought sport springs from VBandP -and I'm still looking into shock options for a ZR1. I could rebuild the FX3's or wait on that and toss in this shock for now.
I'm wondering if anyone has tried this one out.
Thanks.
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...&dept%5Fid=239
I bought sport springs from VBandP -and I'm still looking into shock options for a ZR1. I could rebuild the FX3's or wait on that and toss in this shock for now.
I'm wondering if anyone has tried this one out.
Thanks.
#2
Team Owner
You can have the FX3 shocks rebuilt for autocross use by Bilstein. They have a "Morocca" (?) valving that was developed by a Forum member in conjunction with Bilstein and this valving is supposed to work great.
Doug Rippie Motorsports used to make an FX3 controller with a replacable prom. You could get a varoety of chips that further changed the shock settings. I'm not sure if they still have them but it would be worth a call to them to find out. Also try Lingenfelter to see if they have something similar.
If you go with rebuilding the FX3 shocks, you could always install a set of KYB Gas-A-Just shocks in the interm. Summit Racing has them for about $32 eack
As far as the Eckler's shock, I cant imagine that Ecklers woud carry a unique Bilstein shock where other accessory catalogs would not. There is an intersting note that says 88 cars have to be lowered an inch to use them on that model. I bet that if you could get the Bilstein part number, it would be a Z51 shock.
For Bilsteins, try Dan at Van Steel. They are a Forum vendor and great to deal with.
If you don't want to spend the money on re-valving the FX3 shocks, look at Koni's, QA-1's or for a bunch of money, the Penkse shocks.
Doug Rippie Motorsports used to make an FX3 controller with a replacable prom. You could get a varoety of chips that further changed the shock settings. I'm not sure if they still have them but it would be worth a call to them to find out. Also try Lingenfelter to see if they have something similar.
If you go with rebuilding the FX3 shocks, you could always install a set of KYB Gas-A-Just shocks in the interm. Summit Racing has them for about $32 eack
As far as the Eckler's shock, I cant imagine that Ecklers woud carry a unique Bilstein shock where other accessory catalogs would not. There is an intersting note that says 88 cars have to be lowered an inch to use them on that model. I bet that if you could get the Bilstein part number, it would be a Z51 shock.
For Bilsteins, try Dan at Van Steel. They are a Forum vendor and great to deal with.
If you don't want to spend the money on re-valving the FX3 shocks, look at Koni's, QA-1's or for a bunch of money, the Penkse shocks.
#3
Thanks, I'll try Dan - most of it isn't so much the money.....OK maybe it is.... but it also seems easier to drop in a shock that works with my spring rate and be all done with the suspension.
#5
Go Koni
I tried 3 different Bilstein valvings and they just had too much bounce. I attribute this to the gas charge.
Switched to Koni's and solved the problem. Now flat through 8 at Willow.
Switched to Koni's and solved the problem. Now flat through 8 at Willow.
#6
Melting Slicks
I know a guy who put the Bilstein Autocross shocks on his 85 which was a dedicated AutoX car and they made quite a difference in his times. But he said they were that stiff that he could not imagine them on the highway.
Also I have some slightly used Z51 shocks for sale. These do ride firm but not harsh.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1622943
Also I have some slightly used Z51 shocks for sale. These do ride firm but not harsh.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1622943
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I went with the HAL/QA1 adjustables instead of having mine rebuilt. The ability to adjust when I got to an event then move the ride back to something normal was great. It made a big difference in the performance and the cost wasn't too bad, if I remember maybe $550-$600 for the set.
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Melting Slicks
Morocca rear rebound valving is a bit weak. A bit compression stiff to rebound rate on all four, but it also depends on springs rates, bars, track etc.
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St. Jude Donor '03 & '05
I went with the HAL/QA1 adjustables instead of having mine rebuilt. The ability to adjust when I got to an event then move the ride back to something normal was great. It made a big difference in the performance and the cost wasn't too bad, if I remember maybe $550-$600 for the set.
#10
Race Director
If you do get Bilstein, I found that the rubber mounts that come with them are super soft. I have been looking for poly mounts to replace them, but haven't had any luck.
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I'd go the Koni adjustable or HAL/QA1 route so that you can fine tune for different courses. Worth the added up-front expense IMO.
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I would completely disagree. I had ansolutely TERRIBLE experiences with my QA1's on my C5. All four needed revalving twice within a year. The lower mount was a "one size fits all" type that allowed the shock to rattle. Total, total crap.
#13
Tech Contributor
The real point of my post is that being able to fine tune the shock for a given course is desirable vs trying a one size fits all valving scheme.
#14
I have revalved bilsteins from Vette brakes that would be much like the ones you are considering. They are awesome on a road course and came with poly bushings.
Bear in mind they are absolutely punishing on the street.
Bear in mind they are absolutely punishing on the street.
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I ended up running out of time on revalving FX3's at Bilstein or picking something else, so I took a chance on VBP digressive valved extreme shocks which shoudl be OK with the extreme springs I bought from them.
thanks though-good info here for the future.
thanks though-good info here for the future.