No more Super Duty Trucks!
02-27-2007, 01:47 PM
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Since I started following some of your links John I've been reading more and more on detnews auto insider. Doesn't paint a very good picture for any of the Big 3... It's actually depressing 
02-27-2007, 02:30 PM
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02-27-2007, 02:37 PM
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550-600HP Cats and Cummings are still the perfered engine in 9 axle haulers,But the new Detroits get 2 mph more than any of the others in road hauls trucks.
02-27-2007, 03:31 PM
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What did the USSR and USA call it? "MAD" or Mutual Assured Destruction.
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02-27-2007, 03:38 PM
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This will bury the entire country in every sector of work or dam near it. Out of control and 3-4X inflation rates. The show down will be this year when the contracts of GM, Chrysler, and Ford expire. GM has so many retire and old employees it is killing them. Toyota has a new and young workforce as they just started here. Government in Japan pays it all so they have it made. We are going down fast with this global leveling.
Walmart sells a special Tide in China because 90% wash their clothes by hand as we pay mega taxes here! There is average of 25 man hours to build a car now which is amazing to me.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...02270372/1148/
02-27-2007, 03:45 PM
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Ford-Navistar showdown could threaten truck production
Automaker won't say how long Super Duty pickups may be made if price issue isn't settled.
Ford Motor Co. said Monday that a decision by key supplier Navistar International Corp. to stop supplying diesel engines will not disrupt production of F-Series Super Duty pickups "in the near term."
Automaker won't say how long Super Duty pickups may be made if price issue isn't settled.
Ford Motor Co. said Monday that a decision by key supplier Navistar International Corp. to stop supplying diesel engines will not disrupt production of F-Series Super Duty pickups "in the near term."
Going premature on us?
BTW Ford owns Cummings, so it's a Ford engine in the Dodges.
I'm suprized DB never put a Mecedes in them, though with recent events they're better off.
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02-27-2007, 04:08 PM
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[QUOTE=BrianCunningham;1559148574]
Constant rumor but Ford does not own Cummins. MB would move one of their motors in but they figured most buy a Dodge diesel for the Cummins and they would lose their base.
Ford-Navistar showdown could threaten truck production
Automaker won't say how long Super Duty pickups may be made if price issue isn't settled.
Ford Motor Co. said Monday that a decision by key supplier Navistar International Corp. to stop supplying diesel engines will not disrupt production of F-Series Super Duty pickups "in the near term."[/qoute]
They always count on supplier distruptions.
Going premature on us?
BTW Ford owns Cummings, so it's a Ford engine in the Dodges.
I'm suprized DB never put a Mecedes in them, though with recent events they're better off.
Automaker won't say how long Super Duty pickups may be made if price issue isn't settled.
Ford Motor Co. said Monday that a decision by key supplier Navistar International Corp. to stop supplying diesel engines will not disrupt production of F-Series Super Duty pickups "in the near term."[/qoute]
They always count on supplier distruptions.
Going premature on us?
BTW Ford owns Cummings, so it's a Ford engine in the Dodges.
I'm suprized DB never put a Mecedes in them, though with recent events they're better off.
02-27-2007, 04:37 PM
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[QUOTE=BrianCunningham;1559148574]
BTW Ford owns Cummings, so it's a Ford engine in the Dodges.
I'm suprized DB never put a Mecedes in them, though with recent events they're better off.
1. there is no "G" in Cummins
2. I saw this post coming...Ford does not own Cummins. At one time Ford had about a 10% stock holdings in Cummins but that was sold off years ago. Even on Cummins own website FAQ, the question is asked and answered: Click Here
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BTW Ford owns Cummings, so it's a Ford engine in the Dodges.
I'm suprized DB never put a Mecedes in them, though with recent events they're better off.
2. I saw this post coming...Ford does not own Cummins. At one time Ford had about a 10% stock holdings in Cummins but that was sold off years ago. Even on Cummins own website FAQ, the question is asked and answered: Click Here
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02-27-2007, 05:19 PM
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I'm just so used to hearing this false rumor from all the time I have spent at the Ford Diesel and Superduty forums that sometimes it just gets old.
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02-27-2007, 05:21 PM
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I hope!
02-28-2007, 05:22 PM
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02-28-2007, 07:25 PM
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The super duty is doomed for sure. One American company shooting the themselves and the other in the foot at the same time.
Business 101 - Anytime a service or product supplier stops supplying the service or product due to a "dispute", the whole thing is fukked. Contract dispute or not, providing the service is essential good business for both companies.
In this case, Ford will lose extreme gross sales profits.
And, the engine maker can kiss a fair amount of their labor force "goodbye" from no production for Ford.
Lose - Lose No one wins.
I'd never drive a Ford anyways
Business 101 - Anytime a service or product supplier stops supplying the service or product due to a "dispute", the whole thing is fukked. Contract dispute or not, providing the service is essential good business for both companies.
In this case, Ford will lose extreme gross sales profits.
And, the engine maker can kiss a fair amount of their labor force "goodbye" from no production for Ford.
Lose - Lose No one wins.
I'd never drive a Ford anyways
02-28-2007, 10:33 PM
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Navistar, which is based in Warrenville, Ill., stands to lose $215 million on an annual basis, he said.
International Truck and Engine Corp., which is Navistar's principal operating company, has been the exclusive diesel engine supplier for Ford's
International Truck and Engine Corp., which is Navistar's principal operating company, has been the exclusive diesel engine supplier for Ford's
But, the corporate attorney(s) who recommended that Navistar STOP providing motors to Ford are STILL making their $100k/yr salaries... for how long?
