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Old 06-20-2007, 08:21 PM
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How do the folks who have gone from Tracquest to "Chin" Motorsports events see the transition from one to the other? I.e., how would you compare the management of these events (and your personal experience in driving the events) to those before the buyout?
Old 06-20-2007, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rbeckham
How do the folks who have gone from Tracquest to "Chin" Motorsports events see the transition from one to the other? I.e., how would you compare the management of these events (and your personal experience in driving the events) to those before the buyout?
I had limited experience pre "buyout". But I noticed more instructor perks (meals, etc.) pre-buyout then you see now. I think their participant prices went down though. The on track rules are unchanged from the Tracquest format. I have done many Chin/Tracquest events post buyout and they are pretty well run. Even if they are pretty hung up on "Miata is king" mantra
Old 06-21-2007, 11:40 AM
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Seamless transition when Chin brought out Track Quest's East Coast opperation.

Now you will see... a few less "Perks"...

but the event is VERY WELL RUN... with ample track time !!!

IMO... Much better than most other D E Events !!!

Did I mention.. Ample track time ?
Old 06-21-2007, 12:14 PM
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I instruct for them. IMHO they are the best value in DE for both students and instructors.

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Prices are higher with Chin as they require membership with the org. before you can even register for an event, and the events themselves are more, especially if you're in the novice group and will have an instructor with you. Track time is the same and the events are run well. As far as the Miata thing, I had to allow the Chin Motorsports Miata to pass last year at Watkins while driving my Z06...not the greatest thing for my ego Gotta admit they are great cars for the track.
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I did quite a few with Todd (mostly Mid Ohio) and now with Mark and his crew. Both formats are great...tons of seat time and I really haven't noticed too much of a difference. Todd liked to do those wine tasting things, which was a bit odd to me, but other than that...
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Thanks to all for your impressions. (Especially Chris, who has helped me in ways he probably doesn't recall, such as helping me to get my window glass out when my door module failed at CMP and I couldn't lower or raise the driver window).

I got off on the wrong foot with the new Chin management when I complained about their website not working correctly some months ago. I was trying unsuccessfully to register for an event using my old Tracquest data. To make a long story short, they not only objected to my questioning how it worked, but to my surprise became personally abusive.

So while Todd's Tracquest events were my overall track event favorites (I used to do Mid-Ohio and Watkins Glen on a regular basis) the atmosphere now seems quite different, and I wanted to get the impressions of the Corvette crew about the new operation. Thanks - Robert
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Give Chin another try... talk to Mark Hicks.

If you don't... it will be your loss !!!

They really run a safe event with more track time than any other group I've run with...

and that includes just about everybody.
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Originally Posted by varkwso
I had limited experience pre "buyout". But I noticed more instructor perks (meals, etc.) pre-buyout then you see now. I think their participant prices went down though. The on track rules are unchanged from the Tracquest format. I have done many Chin/Tracquest events post buyout and they are pretty well run. Even if they are pretty hung up on "Miata is king" mantra
I ran with them at Roebling for the first time and had a great time. Lots of track time, well run, and they allow solo drivers who show some common sense the ability to have another solo driver ride with them. It is helpful having one of you Corvette guys show me the fast way around the track

BTW, there was maybe 4 Miatas, a bunch of P-cars and 3 Vettes, one of which I lapped
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I am an instructor with chin, also ran with todd at road atlanta. Last year todd joined us at vir and I hung out with him quite a bit (drank some of his expensive wine.) They are a great group, with tons of time. Pretty sure mark would not verbally abuse anyone...??

When they do the tracquest format, things are as before. When they do the chin format, you get some long sessions, I had to ride with a dude for 45 minutes at roebling in a prelude, was about to hurl!

p.s. never passed by a miata!
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Originally Posted by Timz06
I am an instructor with chin, also ran with todd at road atlanta. Last year todd joined us at vir and I hung out with him quite a bit (drank some of his expensive wine.) They are a great group, with tons of time. Pretty sure mark would not verbally abuse anyone...??

When they do the tracquest format, things are as before. When they do the chin format, you get some long sessions, I had to ride with a dude for 45 minutes at roebling in a prelude, was about to hurl!

p.s. never passed by a miata!
I did an hour on track with a student at Sebring with Chin/TS - I have never been happier to see a checkered...the sessions are way past my butt tolerance at times...

I am surprised if Mark was the abuser - his wife would not put up with that kind of attitude!

Some of the other "Chin" guys can get arrogant - but so does Tim.....

I was in the Pcar that hit the tree at T8 at Roebling - I was hollering throttle as he was lifting in a 911 - bad plan....
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Heey Heeey Heeeey.... Tim's cool.

When he gets a litl... "uppitty"... just give him a Beer !!!

Cya @ VIR, Jeff.

Jody will probably have his Millers Lite !!! I hear...He's got his "Pit Babes" dieting !!!

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Originally Posted by trumper Z06
Heey Heeey Heeeey.... Tim's cool.

When he gets a litl... "uppitty"... just give him a Beer !!!

Cya @ VIR, Jeff.

Jody will probably have his Millers Lite !!! I hear...He's got his "Pit Babes" dieting !!!
Tim is the best having him at the NASA free beer cooler is like watching Jody's pit babes at a buffet...
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