BrianCunningham

OK it's a drag car, but still pretty impressive!



http://www.speedtv.com/articles/life...omotive/38350/

codename Bil Doe

FWD. I think I just caught gay. Doesn't matter how much hp. Great, now I want a Red Bull, too. 7-11 time.

BrianCunningham

Sorry, but what did you think of the car

MarkBychowski

I'm not into drag racing or FWD cars, but it's still pretty damn impressive!

It cracks me up that they still call it an "ecotech" motor when I'm sure there's nothing "eco" about it!

Solofast

VEDDY INTERRESTING!!!

Just a couple of observations....

The went to the "Audi - Anteater" kind of layout to get some more weight ahead of the front wheels. Rear drive drag cars are built tall to get more weight transferred to the rear wheels. Front drivers are built low and try to get more weight forward to start with...

BIG TURBO with a big pressure ratio.... PR of around 4 bars is a pretty stout turbo...very cool

burners

FWD They are getting to be slingshot dragsters with two sets of wheelie bars and no front wheels. When will those kids grow up and take a physics class? I'm not faulting the guys that built it. You do what you need to for the best performance within the rules. It's just anyone who thinks FWD is the way to race really needs a basic dose of physics. That turbo is nearly as big as the engine, wow.

Solofast

Good observation, and all true....

I remember when a AA/F slingshot called the Chizzler broke the 200 mph "barrier" in the 1/4 mile... That was a bid deal, and it was running around a 7 second run to do it.. Now we have front drivers going that fast, and real top fuel cars doing close to 350 mph in four and a half seconds.... F still equals MxA (at least it did the last time I looked), but what some of these cars are doing is still pretty amazing...

0Randy@DRM

I will disagree with you!!! When a RWD car losses traction more weight is put on to the front wheels only making the problem worse. When a FWD car losses traction more weight is placed on the drive wheels. Why do you think FWD do well against the RWD cars.

Randy
PS The fastest think on our dyno was a 4 banger, 2.0 liters of fire I don't know the horsepower because it maxed it out before he started running high boost.

Solofast

Yea, all true, but which car is putting down more power in the first place? If you really think that fwd is better for the track how come so few big power cars are fwd? The reason is that to get a reasonable amount of power down, you are going to need more than 60% of the weight on the front wheels, and if you try to make a car steer and accelerate with that much weight on the front wheels they quickly become overloaded which = termiinal understeer..... RWD with a slight rear weight bias is the fastest way around any track or down a 1/4 mile....

GM did a fwd Camaro program in the late 70's and they learned a lot about high performance fwd. They ended up with a massively wide car that had huge front tires and about 60% of the weight on the front axle and as much rear roll stiffness as you could get. According to a friend of mine who did the dynamics on the car, it "handled", but the throttle off characteristics were downright "spooky"...

The bottom line was that if you want to have a high power/weight ratio fwd simply isn't a good idea.

0Randy@DRM

Six great ways of going 200 mph. The people that build and go over the 200 mph know what they are doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeK_aFU0dYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3umAtmclayE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRdA0pzxQ-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7NknqfY0C8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7NknqfY0C8

burners

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7NknqfY0C8
That one is pretty cool!

73-84 IMSA Widebody

Fast is fast....damn.

BrianCunningham

Except for the spectators right next to the road!