Carbon Fiber Air Dam & CF Wing pics
07-16-2007, 01:45 AM
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Carbon Fiber Air Dam & CF Wing pics
This is John Bianchi's Zo6 ride, he sent me photos he took of his front airdam splitter he just got installed from AR Racing
and the wing from them he's had from them since last November ...
and the wing from them he's had from them since last November ...
07-16-2007, 06:16 AM
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07-16-2007, 07:15 AM
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It looks great but may not be work and actully hinder performance.
a few things to consider for any effectivness:
1:The front splitter needs to part of the front undertray diffuser.
2:The front splitter, needs to be 4" out from the front of the car WHEN a wing is attached to effectivly control front end lift
3. the front undertray diffuser needs to extend back to the center of the front axle plain.
4. This means the front brake air holes needs to be moved to the front of the car and
5: the bottom breather needs to be changed to a front breather.
6: an extrator hood to prevent front end lift
7: rear undtray diffuser to smooth the air flow out from under the car and not create any air turbulace on the rear of the car, which would slow the car down.
But they sure look cool
07-16-2007, 08:54 AM
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It looks great but may not be work and actully hinder performance.
a few things to consider for any effectivness:
1:The front splitter needs to part of the front undertray diffuser.
2:The front splitter, needs to be 4" out from the front of the car WHEN a wing is attached to effectivly control front end lift
3. the front undertray diffuser needs to extend back to the center of the front axle plain.
4. This means the front brake air holes needs to be moved to the front of the car and
5: the bottom breather needs to be changed to a front breather.
6: an extrator hood to prevent front end lift
7: rear undtray diffuser to smooth the air flow out from under the car and not create any air turbulace on the rear of the car, which would slow the car down.
But they sure look cool
a few things to consider for any effectivness:
1:The front splitter needs to part of the front undertray diffuser.
2:The front splitter, needs to be 4" out from the front of the car WHEN a wing is attached to effectivly control front end lift
3. the front undertray diffuser needs to extend back to the center of the front axle plain.
4. This means the front brake air holes needs to be moved to the front of the car and
5: the bottom breather needs to be changed to a front breather.
6: an extrator hood to prevent front end lift
7: rear undtray diffuser to smooth the air flow out from under the car and not create any air turbulace on the rear of the car, which would slow the car down.
But they sure look cool
07-16-2007, 09:00 AM
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Aerodynamic parts look cool, but are no were near bolt on and go.
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07-16-2007, 01:20 PM
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It looks great but may not be work and actully hinder performance.
a few things to consider for any effectivness:
1:The front splitter needs to part of the front undertray diffuser.
2:The front splitter, needs to be 4" out from the front of the car WHEN a wing is attached to effectivly control front end lift
3. the front undertray diffuser needs to extend back to the center of the front axle plain.
4. This means the front brake air holes needs to be moved to the front of the car and
5: the bottom breather needs to be changed to a front breather.
6: an extrator hood to prevent front end lift
7: rear undtray diffuser to smooth the air flow out from under the car and not create any air turbulace on the rear of the car, which would slow the car down.
But they sure look cool
a few things to consider for any effectivness:
1:The front splitter needs to part of the front undertray diffuser.
2:The front splitter, needs to be 4" out from the front of the car WHEN a wing is attached to effectivly control front end lift
3. the front undertray diffuser needs to extend back to the center of the front axle plain.
4. This means the front brake air holes needs to be moved to the front of the car and
5: the bottom breather needs to be changed to a front breather.
6: an extrator hood to prevent front end lift
7: rear undtray diffuser to smooth the air flow out from under the car and not create any air turbulace on the rear of the car, which would slow the car down.
But they sure look cool
I called up Corvette Forum Member BZB aka as John Bianchi
and read him your post and told him you race a C5...........BZB said and I will attempt to paraphrase, "what you said only applies to a C5 the aerodynamics are alot different on a C6 zo6 ( this airdam is only for a C6 Zo6 and not even a base C6).........the way a C6 Z and a C5Z breathe are completly different"
........"this airdam creates 750lbs of downforce at speeds over 90 mph with 60% less drag than the 4" one "
"and 750 lbs of downforce on the rear , this has been wind tunnel tested with engineers..........in combo with the wing, this wing does not push down, it sucks the car down, big distinction!"
and yes it does look cool too!
07-16-2007, 01:55 PM
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A few pics APR sent to me after speaking with them. I had some technical questions for them and asked if they could send me some information:
If you say so.
07-18-2007, 09:28 PM
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sorry I hate to say I agree. I would like to see his testing. What suspension is he running with all this downforce? All real wings except a PEP BOYS model are just a upside down wing like a plane creating negative lift. So they are pushing the car down via the mounting points.
........"this airdam creates 750lbs of downforce at speeds over 90 mph with 60% less drag than the 4" one "
How does a 4" spliter create 60% more drag?
I would love to see testing for this.
Last edited by John Shiels; 07-18-2007 at 09:38 PM.
07-19-2007, 08:52 AM
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Drifting
I think Doug Fehan would like to see how you get that down force, bye bye Aston Martin
Here's some stuff that has actually seen a wind tunnel:
http://www.mtiracing.com/artmaverick/
Here's some stuff that has actually seen a wind tunnel:
http://www.mtiracing.com/artmaverick/
07-19-2007, 01:49 PM
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I think Doug Fehan would like to see how you get that down force, bye bye Aston Martin
Here's some stuff that has actually seen a wind tunnel:
http://www.mtiracing.com/artmaverick/
Here's some stuff that has actually seen a wind tunnel:
http://www.mtiracing.com/artmaverick/
07-19-2007, 01:54 PM
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Drifting
I have the the tech sheet for that rear spoiler. I asked them to forward it to me and they sent me the excel spreadsheet. How can I save it if it's not a jpg? Never had an excel file hosted before. I can e-mail it to anyone wanting it or you can call Peter @ APR.
07-19-2007, 07:01 PM
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and read him your post and told him you race a C5...........BZB said and I will attempt to paraphrase, "what you said only applies to a C5 the aerodynamics are alot different on a C6 zo6 ( this airdam is only for a C6 Zo6 and not even a base C6).........the way a C6 Z and a C5Z breathe are completly different"
BZB is right about the C6Z being a front breather from the factory.
Last edited by Kappa; 07-19-2007 at 07:05 PM.
07-19-2007, 10:02 PM
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All you need is a 2" splitter, a la World Challenge. The C6 Blunt nose works better than the rolled-under C5 nose. While adding a 4" splitter adds nearly NO drag over a 2" splitter, 2" is much more practical for street and race cars. Trust me, I've ripped off my share of 4" splitters.
btw, I do agree with Tom about the spoiler being a BIG mistake. You are losing precious downforce by running a bottom breathing setup. GM should have put the brake ducts where the fog lights are, like my last World Challenge car. The spoiler is creating pressure under the tip of the nose, which is exactly what you DON'T want.
btw, I do agree with Tom about the spoiler being a BIG mistake. You are losing precious downforce by running a bottom breathing setup. GM should have put the brake ducts where the fog lights are, like my last World Challenge car. The spoiler is creating pressure under the tip of the nose, which is exactly what you DON'T want.
Last edited by davidfarmer; 07-19-2007 at 10:05 PM.
07-19-2007, 11:24 PM
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But I thought the downfoce pressure came from the top side area of the splitter like the pic shown, not under the tip of the nose ?? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Last edited by final gear; 07-19-2007 at 11:27 PM.