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01-25-2008, 09:52 AM
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Hans purchase
Since I need to purchase a hans and new full face helmet as required by NASA this year has anyone compared pricing?? If so who appears to be the least expensive?? Would prefer a forum on NASA Sponsor. Has anyone considered a GROUP PURCHASE??
I can be reached directly at orawiecs33@comcast.net
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I can be reached directly at orawiecs33@comcast.net
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01-25-2008, 11:02 AM
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Try ApexPerformance.net
Linda is amazing, and if you want to start a GB she'd be more than happy to help with that.
Linda is amazing, and if you want to start a GB she'd be more than happy to help with that.
Since I need to purchase a hans and new full face helmet as required by NASA this year has anyone compared pricing?? If so who appears to be the least expensive?? Would prefer a forum on NASA Sponsor. Has anyone considered a GROUP PURCHASE??
I can be reached directly at orawiecs33@comcast.net
Rudy R Orawiec
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NASA Great Lakes Region
I can be reached directly at orawiecs33@comcast.net
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01-25-2008, 11:23 AM
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Linda is a nasa sponsor.
01-25-2008, 11:34 AM
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I also used Apex Performance. I bought a bell M4 and the hans. they did all the he.met mods for the hans and even thru in a helmet and hans cover. great service and best price.
01-25-2008, 01:47 PM
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Rudy, Apex handed out $20 coupons at Nationals...did you happen to grab one?
Me and one other person would be interested in the GP if you get one going.
See you in ST2!
Me and one other person would be interested in the GP if you get one going.
See you in ST2!
01-25-2008, 05:38 PM
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I'm going to let this stew at least over the weekend to see how many people are interested. I also have this posted on the Great Lakes Region NASA forum. If we can get enough interest I [ if someone else wants to it's fine with me ] can contact some suppliers. As before I can be reached at orawiecs33@comcast.net.
No I did not get a $20 coupon at the Nationals. Rats $^&*&()+_)(*&^&
Have a extreme case of cabin fever
No I did not get a $20 coupon at the Nationals. Rats $^&*&()+_)(*&^&
Have a extreme case of cabin fever
01-25-2008, 05:48 PM
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I would be interested in the group purchase.
Hans Sport Series 20
Not sure what size yet.
Hans Sport Series 20
Not sure what size yet.
01-26-2008, 09:34 AM
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I've installed 5 or 6, takes a wopping 10 to 15 minutes. All you need is a drill and some masking tape. A special wrench comes with the HANS that silps between the liner and the shell.
Hopefully you're going to use a HANS with a good quality helmit.
01-26-2008, 03:13 PM
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I'm using a hockey helmet from when I used to ride the short bus...
Sorry about the coupon comment, I just grabbed mine and is was Argent Labs, not Apex.
Although they have the Hutchins device. I don't see HANS. They are all SFI 38.1 compliant, though.
Sorry about the coupon comment, I just grabbed mine and is was Argent Labs, not Apex.
Although they have the Hutchins device. I don't see HANS. They are all SFI 38.1 compliant, though.
01-27-2008, 06:57 PM
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We could offer some kind of special. Especially if you are buying a HANS and a Helmet.
The biggest problem in sales on HANS is that all HANS dealers signed an agreement that we wouldn't sell below HANS internet price.
The GP that we offered last year was that we would pay any and all applicable shipping and tax. I will offer that again, no problem.
The new Sport 20 degree models are supposed to begin shipping this week.
The sliding tethers are not due to begin shipping for a few more weeks. Figure mid to late February on those.
If you buy a helmet and a HANS from MSI, I'll mount the HANS anchors for free. We currently stock Pyrotect and Zamp Helmets, and offer Bell and Sparco as well. If there are a few of you interested in Impact Helmets, shoes, suits... I'm trying to figure up a buy-in order with them. If you help me, I'll help you.
BIG WORD OF WARNING - If you have HANS anchors (in your helmet), and the HANS was purchased prior to January 2008 and you decide to try one of your buddies new HANS devices with the sliding tethers, then you need to know that you need to change your anchor base nuts (that go between your helmet liner and the shell). The test results show that the tension load that a heavy impact can present to the anchors (if the driver's head is turned) can rip the old style base nuts right through the fiberglass of the helmet. I believe that all HANS devices shipping after 1/1/2008 will automatically come with a larger diameter base nut. All sliding tether systems retrofit kits will also ship with the larger base nuts.
We are also motorola dealers and can set you (your helmet, car and crew) up with radios. It is easier to have the guy installing your HANS anchors, be the same guy that installs your in helmet wiring harness and mic.
The biggest problem in sales on HANS is that all HANS dealers signed an agreement that we wouldn't sell below HANS internet price.
The GP that we offered last year was that we would pay any and all applicable shipping and tax. I will offer that again, no problem.
The new Sport 20 degree models are supposed to begin shipping this week.
The sliding tethers are not due to begin shipping for a few more weeks. Figure mid to late February on those.
If you buy a helmet and a HANS from MSI, I'll mount the HANS anchors for free. We currently stock Pyrotect and Zamp Helmets, and offer Bell and Sparco as well. If there are a few of you interested in Impact Helmets, shoes, suits... I'm trying to figure up a buy-in order with them. If you help me, I'll help you.
BIG WORD OF WARNING - If you have HANS anchors (in your helmet), and the HANS was purchased prior to January 2008 and you decide to try one of your buddies new HANS devices with the sliding tethers, then you need to know that you need to change your anchor base nuts (that go between your helmet liner and the shell). The test results show that the tension load that a heavy impact can present to the anchors (if the driver's head is turned) can rip the old style base nuts right through the fiberglass of the helmet. I believe that all HANS devices shipping after 1/1/2008 will automatically come with a larger diameter base nut. All sliding tether systems retrofit kits will also ship with the larger base nuts.
We are also motorola dealers and can set you (your helmet, car and crew) up with radios. It is easier to have the guy installing your HANS anchors, be the same guy that installs your in helmet wiring harness and mic.
01-28-2008, 09:47 AM
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Will the person who gave me info on possible supplier on group purchase please send me your # again. I accidentally erased your E Mail. Rats. Orawiecs33@comcast.net
01-28-2008, 12:56 PM
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I find after some research that Hans requires a miminum price on their product. I contacted Linda at www.apexperformance.net and she also confirmed that requirement. She did however say if we get 15 people that also buy a new helmet she can give us a break on the helmets. My self I'm buying a new helmet. If you go with them let her know that we are the group from NASA/Corvette Forum. Use my name to remind her who we are.
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01-28-2008, 04:09 PM
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We could offer some kind of special. Especially if you are buying a HANS and a Helmet.
The biggest problem in sales on HANS is that all HANS dealers signed an agreement that we wouldn't sell below HANS internet price.
The GP that we offered last year was that we would pay any and all applicable shipping and tax. I will offer that again, no problem.
The new Sport 20 degree models are supposed to begin shipping this week.
The sliding tethers are not due to begin shipping for a few more weeks. Figure mid to late February on those.
If you buy a helmet and a HANS from MSI, I'll mount the HANS anchors for free. We currently stock Pyrotect and Zamp Helmets, and offer Bell and Sparco as well. If there are a few of you interested in Impact Helmets, shoes, suits... I'm trying to figure up a buy-in order with them. If you help me, I'll help you.
BIG WORD OF WARNING - If you have HANS anchors (in your helmet), and the HANS was purchased prior to January 2008 and you decide to try one of your buddies new HANS devices with the sliding tethers, then you need to know that you need to change your anchor base nuts (that go between your helmet liner and the shell). The test results show that the tension load that a heavy impact can present to the anchors (if the driver's head is turned) can rip the old style base nuts right through the fiberglass of the helmet. I believe that all HANS devices shipping after 1/1/2008 will automatically come with a larger diameter base nut. All sliding tether systems retrofit kits will also ship with the larger base nuts.
We are also motorola dealers and can set you (your helmet, car and crew) up with radios. It is easier to have the guy installing your HANS anchors, be the same guy that installs your in helmet wiring harness and mic.
The biggest problem in sales on HANS is that all HANS dealers signed an agreement that we wouldn't sell below HANS internet price.
The GP that we offered last year was that we would pay any and all applicable shipping and tax. I will offer that again, no problem.
The new Sport 20 degree models are supposed to begin shipping this week.
The sliding tethers are not due to begin shipping for a few more weeks. Figure mid to late February on those.
If you buy a helmet and a HANS from MSI, I'll mount the HANS anchors for free. We currently stock Pyrotect and Zamp Helmets, and offer Bell and Sparco as well. If there are a few of you interested in Impact Helmets, shoes, suits... I'm trying to figure up a buy-in order with them. If you help me, I'll help you.
BIG WORD OF WARNING - If you have HANS anchors (in your helmet), and the HANS was purchased prior to January 2008 and you decide to try one of your buddies new HANS devices with the sliding tethers, then you need to know that you need to change your anchor base nuts (that go between your helmet liner and the shell). The test results show that the tension load that a heavy impact can present to the anchors (if the driver's head is turned) can rip the old style base nuts right through the fiberglass of the helmet. I believe that all HANS devices shipping after 1/1/2008 will automatically come with a larger diameter base nut. All sliding tether systems retrofit kits will also ship with the larger base nuts.
We are also motorola dealers and can set you (your helmet, car and crew) up with radios. It is easier to have the guy installing your HANS anchors, be the same guy that installs your in helmet wiring harness and mic.
01-28-2008, 04:21 PM
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We could offer some kind of special. Especially if you are buying a HANS and a Helmet.
The biggest problem in sales on HANS is that all HANS dealers signed an agreement that we wouldn't sell below HANS internet price.
The GP that we offered last year was that we would pay any and all applicable shipping and tax. I will offer that again, no problem.
The new Sport 20 degree models are supposed to begin shipping this week.
The sliding tethers are not due to begin shipping for a few more weeks. Figure mid to late February on those.
If you buy a helmet and a HANS from MSI, I'll mount the HANS anchors for free. We currently stock Pyrotect and Zamp Helmets, and offer Bell and Sparco as well. If there are a few of you interested in Impact Helmets, shoes, suits... I'm trying to figure up a buy-in order with them. If you help me, I'll help you.
BIG WORD OF WARNING - If you have HANS anchors (in your helmet), and the HANS was purchased prior to January 2008 and you decide to try one of your buddies new HANS devices with the sliding tethers, then you need to know that you need to change your anchor base nuts (that go between your helmet liner and the shell). The test results show that the tension load that a heavy impact can present to the anchors (if the driver's head is turned) can rip the old style base nuts right through the fiberglass of the helmet. I believe that all HANS devices shipping after 1/1/2008 will automatically come with a larger diameter base nut. All sliding tether systems retrofit kits will also ship with the larger base nuts.
We are also motorola dealers and can set you (your helmet, car and crew) up with radios. It is easier to have the guy installing your HANS anchors, be the same guy that installs your in helmet wiring harness and mic.
The biggest problem in sales on HANS is that all HANS dealers signed an agreement that we wouldn't sell below HANS internet price.
The GP that we offered last year was that we would pay any and all applicable shipping and tax. I will offer that again, no problem.
The new Sport 20 degree models are supposed to begin shipping this week.
The sliding tethers are not due to begin shipping for a few more weeks. Figure mid to late February on those.
If you buy a helmet and a HANS from MSI, I'll mount the HANS anchors for free. We currently stock Pyrotect and Zamp Helmets, and offer Bell and Sparco as well. If there are a few of you interested in Impact Helmets, shoes, suits... I'm trying to figure up a buy-in order with them. If you help me, I'll help you.
BIG WORD OF WARNING - If you have HANS anchors (in your helmet), and the HANS was purchased prior to January 2008 and you decide to try one of your buddies new HANS devices with the sliding tethers, then you need to know that you need to change your anchor base nuts (that go between your helmet liner and the shell). The test results show that the tension load that a heavy impact can present to the anchors (if the driver's head is turned) can rip the old style base nuts right through the fiberglass of the helmet. I believe that all HANS devices shipping after 1/1/2008 will automatically come with a larger diameter base nut. All sliding tether systems retrofit kits will also ship with the larger base nuts.
We are also motorola dealers and can set you (your helmet, car and crew) up with radios. It is easier to have the guy installing your HANS anchors, be the same guy that installs your in helmet wiring harness and mic.
You will be getting a call from me someday pretty soon. My last weekend crash caused some concern about keeping my head on and things like that. Plus my helment doesn't look the best after it banged around the cockpit. I took a small peice of the out shell off, that means in the garbage it will go!
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01-28-2008, 09:44 PM
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John - The pre-2008 helmet anchor base nuts are fine when used with fixed length tethers. This is because they predominately work in shear not tension. The sliding tethers allow a greater tension load, if the driver has their head turned durring impact, which in extreem conditions can cause the base nut to pull through the helmet.
There is no need to upgrade base nuts unless you switch to the sliding tether. The sliding tether retrofit kit (which includes larger diameter base nuts are $75.
Don't forget that you can also get gel padding for your HANS. I've upgraded and they are alot more comfortable.
We also have helmet bags on our website that have enough room for your helmet as well as your HANS. http://www.motorsportimage.com/c-230...race-gear.aspx
Randy - I'm glad to hear that you are okay. I'll talk to you soon.
There is no need to upgrade base nuts unless you switch to the sliding tether. The sliding tether retrofit kit (which includes larger diameter base nuts are $75.
Don't forget that you can also get gel padding for your HANS. I've upgraded and they are alot more comfortable.
We also have helmet bags on our website that have enough room for your helmet as well as your HANS. http://www.motorsportimage.com/c-230...race-gear.aspx
Randy - I'm glad to hear that you are okay. I'll talk to you soon.
