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Old 07-07-2008, 02:16 PM
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Many of you guys, like me who do a lot of fully loaded towing, have probably had the same trailer tire blowout issues I've had.

I had one in the middle of Charlotte traffic about a month ago. I had another one last Sunday on the way to VIR and at that point I was pizzed and swore I'd do something to fix that problem

I have a 24' enclosed trailer with 2 #5,000 axles. When I leave the house the trailer is so fully loaded my wife wonders if I'm ever coming home. I look like a gypsy or a Beverley Hillbilly with all the stuff I take along. Needless to say it is at the weight limit.

Most all 15" trailer tires are "D" rated tires. Their limit is ~2,500#'s. It doesn't take much to overload one tire and then it blows. The choice has been to buy replacement 16" wheels and tires to move up to "E" rated or higher tires. The problem with that is having to buy new wheels, and then maybe filling the trailer fender well so much the tires will rub.

I finally found an alternative. After searching everywhere I found a local tire dealer who has "E" rated tires (~#2,800) in 15" sizes. I replaced 2 of mine this morning. They were ~$100 each. Hopefully, from now on if you see someone along the side of the road changing a blownout trailer tire, it won't be me.

Tires are Maxxis M8008, 225-75x15 Load Range "E".
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Overloading tires, causing Blow-Outs....



Lose the "Pit Babes" !!!
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Overloading tires, causing Blow-Outs....



Lose the "Pit Babes" !!!
Are you kidding?

Those Pit Babes are like my American Express card, I never leave home without them!
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However........Falcons "pit Babes" were the same ones that Barney Oldfield used >>>>back in 1919

(c'mon Jody.............that's funny )
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are you running 35 psi, or running the max psi listed on the side wall ?
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However........Falcons "pit Babes" were the same ones that Barney Oldfield used >>>>back in 1919

(c'mon Jody.............that's funny )

Whooaaa! Hell, Oldfield was just a youngster when my "girls" were struttin' their stuff!
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are you running 35 psi, or running the max psi listed on the side wall ?

I run them at what's listed on the sidewall. In the case of "D" load range that's 65#s. The "E's" are at 80#.

Low pressure creates a lot of heat which destroys the tires.
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Originally Posted by the blur
are you running 35 psi, or running the max psi listed on the side wall ?
My open trailer with two 3500 lb axles has 15" ST tires in 205/75-R15 with a Load Range C . I run 50 psi in each tire per the trailer mfgr's specs. At 50 psi, each tire is rated at 1850 lbs capacity.
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Jody-

Here's another way to lower your gross vehicle weight -
  • Leave the scooter at home.
  • You'll have to WALK around the paddock like the rest of us, losing those unwanted pounds.
  • And only order salads when you go out to Millie's Pizza with the gang at VIR.
  • ...PROBLEM SOLVED...
    (P.S: No butter on your )
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    I know there's another brand of 15" E rated tires because I've been using them -- at least I think so...

    I'll have to go home and check.
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    Originally Posted by c4cruiser
    My open trailer with two 3500 lb axles has 15" ST tires in 205/75-R15 with a Load Range C . I run 50 psi in each tire per the trailer mfgr's specs. At 50 psi, each tire is rated at 1850 lbs capacity.

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    Jody,
    Wish I had read this sooner, just replaced 3 tires Saturday! Will put this in my notes for next time.
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    sounds like your overloading your axles as well. only time will tell.

    I have never blew out a trailer tire, and I always check pressures before every trip.

    I know guys who tow 10000 lbs with a 1500 suburban. It'll do it ... for a while, but eventually something gotta give. It sounds like your pushing the limits.

    I know tirerack sells trailer tires.
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    Jody,

    You are a mind reader!!! I lost one of my tires going to Mosport last weekend, less than 2 years and 10,000 miles on them, perfect visually, pressures normal. It went BIG! Sucks on the side of the road with the rig. Thinking along the same lines as you about load carying capacities and how they are barely up to what the trailer can carry, I looked for load range E's in that size. Didn't find any, so i bought 4 new Goodyears already. Oh well, maybe I'll ditch them late next year for these you found! Good info!


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    skinniest guy in the paddock is the one riding the powered scooter. It's the rest of us (or some subset) that need to lose weight! You can tell he's getting older though since he upgraded to an *** sitting scooter vs that old stand up death trap thing he had before.
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    I have replaced 5 our of 6 over the last three years - but only blew 2...

    Camber eats them up...
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    Originally Posted by the blur
    sounds like your overloading your axles as well. only time will tell.

    I have never blew out a trailer tire, and I always check pressures before every trip.

    I know guys who tow 10000 lbs with a 1500 suburban. It'll do it ... for a while, but eventually something gotta give. It sounds like your pushing the limits.

    I know tirerack sells trailer tires.
    Most 24ft trailers are rated for 10,000, that is if they have 5,000 lb axles. The tires in question that all of these are delivered with are rated at something like 2530 each, so as you can see there is not much margin for failure built in. You don't have to be overloaded, I am not, I have scaled it so I know this. All you have to have is about 9,000 total and the load to shift a bit or be a little uneven, then all the sudden there is more than 2600 on certain tires, then you have a problem. Couple that with the fact that, simply put, trailer tires are flimsy mess of a tire and you have issues. You should have seen my Goodyear marathon, perfect looking on the start of the trip and when it blew I was off the road in less than 1/2 a mile, it looked like a BOMB went off in it. A little built in safety would be nice.......


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    There was a problem some years back with trailer manufactures actually using tires rated LOWER than the axle capacities of the trailers. This is currenlty ILLEGAL, but when I contacted the government regarding an issue I was having with a hauler, I was basically told it would be up to me to actually sue them. They contacted the manufacturer, and guess what.......they sent me a new axle plate with LOWER axle ratings to match the crappy tires!

    This is a bit off topic, but you definitely want the highest rated tires that will fit on your rims. They are usually only slightly more expensive, and if it prevents even one blown tire on the interstate, it's worth looking into!
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    I have seen other negative comments about goodyear trailer trailers. tirerack sells kumho and goodyear trailer tires.

    I have had good luck with load star tires that came with my trailer.

    go to some the RV forums, and these guys are serious about their equipment. you'll certainly get some good advice there.
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    I just went to tirerack.com, and read the reviews on goodyear trailer tires. needless to say, it wasn't pretty. 99% of the reviews were about massive failures.


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