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Old 08-03-2008, 02:40 PM
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Default Well that was disappointing. :(

I went to the http://www.renegademiata.net/ autox at Devens,MA yesterday.

I used to love comming to their events.

I used to tell everyone you put on the best events.

Well, I'm sorry to say yesterday was very disappointing.

That had to be the most confusing course I've ever been on, and I've been autoxing for 10 years all over the country! Even with an instructor, I couldn't figure it out. All they said was "you missed that one", I guess I should have stopped back up and had him point it out. But that would have just RED flagged the person behind me and ruined their day.

And it wasn't just me. I called in several off courses when I was out working. And they weren't all new people either.

That said, I hope everyone made it home OK in the rain, driving home on autox tires was fun to say the least.

If all autox's were like that, I'd go drag racing instead!

I'll post a video later to see if anyone else can figure it out!
Old 08-03-2008, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
I went to the http://www.renegademiata.net/ autox at Devens,MA yesterday.

I used to love comming to their events.

I used to tell everyone you put on the best events.

Well, I'm sorry to say yesterday was very disappointing.

That had to be the most confusing course I've ever been on, and I've been autoxing for 10 years all over the country! Even with an instructor, I couldn't figure it out. All they said was "you missed that one", I guess I should have stopped back up and had him point it out. But that would have just RED flagged the person behind me and ruined their day.

And it wasn't just me. I called in several off courses when I was out working. And they weren't all new people either.

That said, I hope everyone made it home OK in the rain, driving home on autox tires was fun to say the least.

If all autox's were like that, I'd go drag racing instead!

I'll post a video later to see if anyone else can figure it out!
All my auto-x were like that, so yes, I quit.
Old 08-03-2008, 03:23 PM
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Bingo... this cone dodging nonsense was more frustration than fun.
Old 08-03-2008, 03:23 PM
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We definately need to see the video.
Old 08-03-2008, 05:29 PM
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Ok--some courses suck.

You had a bad time.

Now was the course no fun, or were you influenced by your DNF's ?

I know probably both.
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Old 08-03-2008, 06:13 PM
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As posted to the local NER list by Brian:

"As, stated, I took and instructor with me .... 3 TIMES!

Well perhaps that was the problem. I got talked into volunteering for the gate duty, which corresponeded? with the walk thru. so I only got to walk it once.

Brian"


You certainly have the right to choose another instructor. That being said, often times if you drive over your head and don't have any idea where your going then this is going to happen. Better to throw one run away to find the course than to DNF all 6 times and tell anyone who will listen that you had bad day.

You had a choice of 5 instructors there yesterday. Did you take the same one all 3 times? Not having walked that course more than once certainly raised your chance of getting lost.

Renegade's courses have a reputation of being some of the best organized and challenging in the region. Yes, they usually have more cones than you'll find anywhere else but MANY have come to appreciate that fact when it comes to a more "open" course. They simply find it easier to remember.

"I used to love comming to your events.

I used to tell everyone you put on the best events."


Brian, you had a bad day, move on.

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Old 08-03-2008, 06:36 PM
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My reply to you on the list

Dude, I was CRAWLING out there.

If there was more cones, I don't think I would have had an issue.

Especially at the turn onto the next section coming back.

I had a different instructor each time.

No in-cars with instructors, but I have 1 dry run and 2 ones in the wet

I'll post it on the list.

Brian
I have no intension of stopping autoxing.
I'll just never go with your club again.
Old 08-03-2008, 08:12 PM
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I too sadly will never autox with your club again----wait-----I never did once.

It gets me very upset that I would have to drive like 28 hours to one of your "local events".

I find this in and of itself ridiculous-----

Now if you would transport my car up there for me, and fly me first class, and give me a free ticket for my co-driver----then I might go to one of your events. But I am still not really % 100 sure.

However if you throw in a couple of Hookers and promise not to tell my wife---well in this case, then I think I could see my way to make one of your events.

Thanks
Old 08-03-2008, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sperkins
We definately need to see the video.
Here it is.



BTW Catch how close the workers were when I was running in the rain!
Old 08-03-2008, 09:08 PM
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I don't know if I could watch that course again.

I just threw up. Got very dizzy-----CONSTANTLY going back and forth, looked like there was a manuver every 20 feet--

IMO.....don't worry if you went off course, because no one can watch that video without getting seasick.

Don't know what that was at the end---maybe that was the gate ?

(who's going to help me clean up the vomit on my screen ?)
Old 08-03-2008, 10:12 PM
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You think they had enough slalom's in that course... honestly, that does not look like a fun course at all.

No speed, constantly in a slalom with alot of slow turnarounds... I almost got sick watching the video too. I didn't see alot of pointer cones which would've helped made the course a little clearer.
Old 08-03-2008, 10:29 PM
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looks like a slow course, maybe they didnt have much room

wouldnt have enjoyed that one i dont think
Old 08-03-2008, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dvandentop
looks like a slow course, maybe they didnt have much room

wouldnt have enjoyed that one i dont think

Looks like it was akwardly long and narrow vs open.. it would have confused the **** out of me, thats for sure..
Old 08-03-2008, 11:39 PM
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For comparison, same facility, different event.

Despite leaving my race tires home, a very enjoyable time.

I didn't care that my times were off because I left my race tires home.



Originally Posted by dvandentop
looks like a slow course, maybe they didnt have much room

wouldnt have enjoyed that one i dont think
That's the LAST of a problem there.

Old 08-03-2008, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
Here it is.
Are you sure you weren't at the DMV and accidentally found the motorcycle certification course?
Old 08-03-2008, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LehmanZ06
I too sadly will never autox with your club again----wait-----I never did once.

It gets me very upset that I would have to drive like 28 hours to one of your "local events".

I find this in and of itself ridiculous-----

Now if you would transport my car up there for me, and fly me first class, and give me a free ticket for my co-driver----then I might go to one of your events. But I am still not really % 100 sure.

However if you throw in a couple of Hookers and promise not to tell my wife---well in this case, then I think I could see my way to make one of your events.

Thanks
The SCCA runs ProSolo events there, it's a great facility.
And people actually do come all the way up here from FL to run there.
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I bet the Miatas loved that course

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Old 08-04-2008, 08:24 AM
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Well, I decided to show up to support my customers and to just hang out for a while with friends. I have to say, Auto-X is not my cup of tea, but hell, I have raced sailboats so I will race anything even if it is slow(er). Having said that, this course looked like no fun, and extremely confusing. The #1 thing in any car race (road race, circle track, dirt late models or Auto-X) is to hit your marks, but I would have had zero clue as to what my marks were supposed to be. Running my C6Z there would have been like running a 747 at the Reno air races! It was great to see everyone though, but I will keep going to NHMS, Lime Rock, etc.

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We could add a 747 class, just have to make the cones a little taller.
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Oh yes, I forgot Bill, that you are at Reno! Have you ever gone to those races? It looks like a blast!


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