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Old 06-15-2009, 11:39 AM
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Does the 2010 Grand Sport serve to homogulate a feature package
which would not have been permissible for an owner to assemble
on a earlier non-GS car for use in class competition?

Or is it purely a marketing exercise?

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Marketing from the looks of it.
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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
Does the 2010 Grand Sport serve to homogulate a feature package
which would not have been permissible for an owner to assemble
on a earlier non-GS car for use in class competition?

Or is it purely a marketing exercise?

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BIW car for SCCA T1 spec
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Isn't the GS just an appearance package?
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
BIW car for SCCA T1 spec
I thought of your thread from 2006 as I browsed through details
about the 2010 GS
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Originally Posted by xsiveone
Isn't the GS just an appearance package?
It will be for many buyers.

But my vote is that some careful thought has gone into blending
parts available off the shelf to produce an optimized, near R-T-R
widely affordable car for a variety of organized classes and HPDE.

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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
I thought of your thread from 2006 as I browsed through details
about the 2010 GS
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Guess what? they built BIWs and sent them to Calloway in Europe to build into GT4 cars http://www.corvettemotorsport.com/gt4.htm

Things changed. Bean counters and Marketing ideas for sales. Oh well.

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I dunno.

Looking back at the last posts of the '06 thread

Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Originally Posted by Jaymz
Now if there was a "Comp Coupe" version of the Vette (READ:
race ready, add paint and gas) then I would definately be back in.
Right now a project like this would be too much to handle.

What would it take to get the wheels turning for Chevy to make
a CC clone?
James that is how my conversation started with Wallace. I asked
about the possibilty of a race ready vette like the Porsche GT3. He
said Not a chance but they were looking at doing the Roller again.
Kinda looks like this talk came to fruition of a sorts in the form of
the '10 GS.

If a buyer checks off the 1LT option box for a '10 GS, guts the car,
adds a cage, harnesses and a seat, how far off the mark from a CC
clone is he?

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Guess what? they built BIWs and sent them to Calloway in Europe to
build into GT4 cars http://www.corvettemotorsport.com/gt4.htm
Hmmm...

Originally Posted by Corvette Motorsport
"Kroymans shipped a new 2008 C6 Z51 six-speed coupe to Callaway
Competition in Leingarten, Germany.

In less than six weeks the Callaway team stripped the new car of all
non-essential parts including carpet and standard seats. A new FIA
approved rollcage was installed along with new brakes, center locking
wheels and coil over suspension.

The LS3 6.2 liter 437 hp engine remains stock except for the addition
of a dry sump lubrication system. The car is also equipped with an air
jack system to insure rapid tire changes."
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Who makes the center-lock wheel bearing assemblies???? Sounds like the suspension must be mostly stock, so maybe someone is making a bolt in center lock bearing????
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Zer Customs

The 2008 C6 GT4 is built by Callaway Competition in Leingarten,
Germany. This car is based on the 2008 C6 model. The 6.2 V8 LS3
engine features dry-sump lubrication. The close-ratio 6-speed manual
gearbox is supplied by Tremec and the triple-plate race clutch by
Tilton. Further modifications: ventilated disc brakes from AP Racing
(front: diameter 355 mm, 6-piston calipers; rear: diameter 330 mm, 4-
piston calipers), racing ABS, cast-magnesium wheels from OZ Racing
with Pirelli tires (front: 265/645-18; rear: 305/680-18) and a Koenig
Hans bucket seat with 6-point safety harness. The C6 GT4 is also
equipped with a roll cage, safety fuel tank with a capacity of 104 litres
and refuelling valves on both sides, pneumatic jack system,
polycarbonate rear and side windows and a GM Performance T1 chassis
with adjustable anti-roll bars front and rear.
Profile view of car

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2008 Corvette GT4 Race Car - Against All Odds
Weight And Output Penalties Make Corvette's GT4 Debut A Challenge
By Walt Thurn
Vette Magazine

The Corvette started the test session running two seconds per lap
faster than its GT4 competitors. To slow it down, the FIA added 58 kg
(128 pounds) of weight and an engine restrictor to reduce power from
436 to 398 hp. After successfully completing a DSC shakedown event,
the car was shipped to Silverstone for the GT4 season opener.

Two races were scheduled, one each on Saturday and Sunday. When
the Corvette arrived, SRO official driver Kurt Mollekens hot-lapped the
car to see if the added weight and restrictor had achieved the desired
effect. Finding that the Vette was still too fast, the SRO added another
50 kg (110 pounds) of ballast. It was in this configuration, with driver
Danny van Dongen at the wheel, that the car qualified second fastest
for Race One. (Incredibly, Aston Martins took first, third, fourth, and
fifth.) Rookie driver Rogier Kroymans, meanwhile, qualified the Vette
further down in the field for Race Two.

Saturday dawned cold (35 degrees F) and windy with a slight drizzle.
The start of the race saw a lively battle between two Astons and the
lone Corvette. On Lap Two, one of the Astons spun and hit the wall
hard enough to put the race under caution. When racing resumed, van
Dongen tucked in behind the leading Aston for the remainder of the
race. Despite many attempts, van Dongen was unable to pass and
finished 0.7 second behind the winner. Sunday's race saw a steady
performance from Kroymans, who brought the Corvette safely home
in the middle of the field. All in all, it was a promising debut for the
new team.
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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
Who makes the center-lock wheel bearing assemblies???? Sounds
like the suspension must be mostly stock, so maybe someone is making
a bolt in center lock bearing????
I have not found information about how the OZ center-locks are
mounted to the Kroymans car.

There is a remote possibility they may not be using a C-L hub & bearing
assy.

Courtesy: One Lug Wheels


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Originally Posted by xsiveone
Isn't the GS just an appearance package?
nope has some really good stuff !
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When Reeves Callaway was in Raleigh a Few months ago, I asked him about these cars. He said Corvette made him five and were shipped to Callaway Europe for GT4 conversions. All were sold.
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It would be interesting to know whether there are any
'Delete' options for Comfort, Convenience and/or Entertainment
content on a 1LT M6 Grand Sport? Items which could be easily
excluded during the build process without consequence beyond
reducing cost, hardware surplus to the purpose and preparation
time for the buyer.

For starters:
  • EXZ - Radio Delete
  • ITD - Sound Deadening Delete
  • CPD - Carpet Delete
  • ACD - Air Conditioning Delete
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Originally Posted by rustyguns
Originally Posted by xsiveone
Isn't the GS just an appearance package?
Nope. Has some really good stuff !
A compilation of features. Perhaps someone else can speak to
whether the extra cooling is a result of air management or additional
coolers.
Wide body kit on steel frame w/ targa top
Z06 wheel widths
Z06-size brakes, (14" rotors w/ six-piston fr calipers & 13.4" w/ four-piston rr calipers)
Functional brake ducts and extra cooling
Distinct suspension tuning
- 1.0g target
- Better than previous Z51

Z52 - only avail for Manual Coupes
- Battery relocated to right rear qtr
- Dry sump on LS3
- 'Enhanced cooling' (Edit: inc Differential cooler)

Improved accel while still 436HP.
Hoping for 3.x 0-60 time. Saying 4.0 flat.
- wider tires
- better weight distribution

26 MPG highway



Edit: add entry for Differential Cooler

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Z52 - only avail for Manual Coupes
- Battery relocated to right rear qtr
- Dry sump on LS3
- 'Enhanced cooling'

Improved accel while still 436HP.
Hoping for 3.x 0-60 time. Saying 4.0 flat.
- wider tires
- better weight distribution
Now THIS is good
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Not that it matters much to the road-race crowd, but all 2010 Vette models w/manual transmissions will come standard with Launch Control.

Check out the video posted above to see it in action. It "looks" like there is too much wheelspin, but - as they describe in the video - the computer is constantly modulating actual throttle application FOR the driver to obtain max traction for the conditions, and provide a consistent, fast launch each time. At least that's the theory...

AND IT WON'T VOID YOUR WARRANTY (like it will in a Nissan GTR...)

That could be very useful for ProSolo & autocross starts, depending on how well it works with sticky Hoosiers/Kumhos...

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I am hoping that some the GM ppl coming to VIR for our NCM event will bring a GS.

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