Git Er Dun is back from Iraq
08-09-2009, 06:34 PM
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Git Er Dun is back from Iraq
Hey Everyone,
Our young friend Git Er Dun is back from Iraq. He's building a '99 FRC into a hellacious road racer. Why not welcome him back.
Maybe some of you C5 racers have a few good extra parts you don't need anymore and would like to donate to his project.
WELCOME BACK ERIC !
Our young friend Git Er Dun is back from Iraq. He's building a '99 FRC into a hellacious road racer. Why not welcome him back.
Maybe some of you C5 racers have a few good extra parts you don't need anymore and would like to donate to his project.
WELCOME BACK ERIC !
JD
08-10-2009, 03:34 PM
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Burning Brakes
THANKS A LOT everyone! I got back 4 weeks ago and things have been crazy. I think they are finally going to settle down a little after this next weekend though... and I turn 21 this Wednesday!
It was great having this forum and the people here's support while I was deployed...it definetly made time go by a lot quicker and kept me occupied in the free time that I had.
As Ron (LawDogg) hinted at...my FRC WAS for sale...
I put the car up for sale on the big forum in the C5 For Sale section ( http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-co ... tefull-modifications.html ) and also had it out at Mystic Lake casino for the big Corvette show a little more than a week ago in the for sale section of the show.
A week ago Paul saw the car and test drove it and made an offer. I needed to think about the offer and if I even wanted to sell the car. I was really really close to selling the car and starting a car called a GTM which is made by Factory Five Racing. Here's a link to their kit: http://www.factoryfive.com/table/ffr...TM/GTMkit.html .
I talked to that guy who built the Lamborghini Countach in his basement for 17 years and he wants to build me a GTM for a VERY good price. It would take about 500-600 hours to finish the GTM. The finish GTM only weighs 2350 pounds...so with 700+ hp it would be pretty quick in a straight line. The GTM would have a big wing, front splitter, and rear diffuser. It is a tube frame type car kind of like the Aerial Atom where it doesn't have a frame but just roll cage tubes. They also are fairly easy to license and insure. Their is companies that build up the necessary Porsche GT3 transmission to deal with the torque of a big V8.
I talked with a guy that built one out in CA and took 2nd overall in last years 25 Hours of Thunderhill endurance race. He answered all of my questions and was very helpfull.
There are several problems with turning a GTM into a full racecar or making it into a Cannonball car. First is the cage is not safe enough. I would need to cut out the diagonal door bar and have proper NASCAR style door bars added. The cage also does not have nearly enough headroom to be safe on the track. The GTM racer I talked to actually re-designed the cage to offer 5 more inches of headroom...and they also designed it to have only one seat in the center of the car...which also made it outlawed in most racing classes.
Another problem of the GTM is the suspension design is it does not have sway bars and instead uses Koni coil overs only. The Koni's supplied by Factory Five are not stiff enough for track duty and the mounting points for the GTM will not work for my Moton C5R coil over set up which is big breaking point for me since I really want to use the $11,000 worth of shocks I bought.
The downforce needed on the front of the GTM to corner is also substaintial. Without tons of frontal downforce the GTM simply is not able to turn if ANY power is applied so you have to brake early and wait until you get a straight shot out of the corner before you can give it any gas. The GTM racer is building and designing everything from scratch since no one else races a GTM and he has sooooooo much time into it.
The rear tires are able to be 345's with stock body work but the fronts are only 10" rims so you wouldn't be able to get bigger than 295 or 305's up front. For the Cannonball I need to be able to pull a small trailer and with the GTM's rear diffuser there is no place for a hitch. I did come up with a great idea for that fix though. Remove the rear license plate and put a receiver behind that. Then have an extended insert that puts the hitch about a foot off the back of the car. On the insert I would put a license plate mount. That way I could still have a plate at the rear of the vehicle AND a trailer.
Another problem of a GTM is if I crash/damage it racing replacement parts/body panels would be pretty costly.
Basically it would cost a lot to build a GTM and involve TONS of fabricating and testing to get it to be safe/competitive as a track car.
So in closing: My FRC build is gearing up for this winter's complete build up... should be a intersting! I can't wait to get the car on the track. Maybe I will see some of you guys around at different tracks.
Thanks once again for the support it really made a difference!
-Eric Winsor
It was great having this forum and the people here's support while I was deployed...it definetly made time go by a lot quicker and kept me occupied in the free time that I had.
As Ron (LawDogg) hinted at...my FRC WAS for sale...
I put the car up for sale on the big forum in the C5 For Sale section ( http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-co ... tefull-modifications.html ) and also had it out at Mystic Lake casino for the big Corvette show a little more than a week ago in the for sale section of the show.
A week ago Paul saw the car and test drove it and made an offer. I needed to think about the offer and if I even wanted to sell the car. I was really really close to selling the car and starting a car called a GTM which is made by Factory Five Racing. Here's a link to their kit: http://www.factoryfive.com/table/ffr...TM/GTMkit.html .
I talked to that guy who built the Lamborghini Countach in his basement for 17 years and he wants to build me a GTM for a VERY good price. It would take about 500-600 hours to finish the GTM. The finish GTM only weighs 2350 pounds...so with 700+ hp it would be pretty quick in a straight line. The GTM would have a big wing, front splitter, and rear diffuser. It is a tube frame type car kind of like the Aerial Atom where it doesn't have a frame but just roll cage tubes. They also are fairly easy to license and insure. Their is companies that build up the necessary Porsche GT3 transmission to deal with the torque of a big V8.
I talked with a guy that built one out in CA and took 2nd overall in last years 25 Hours of Thunderhill endurance race. He answered all of my questions and was very helpfull.
There are several problems with turning a GTM into a full racecar or making it into a Cannonball car. First is the cage is not safe enough. I would need to cut out the diagonal door bar and have proper NASCAR style door bars added. The cage also does not have nearly enough headroom to be safe on the track. The GTM racer I talked to actually re-designed the cage to offer 5 more inches of headroom...and they also designed it to have only one seat in the center of the car...which also made it outlawed in most racing classes.
Another problem of the GTM is the suspension design is it does not have sway bars and instead uses Koni coil overs only. The Koni's supplied by Factory Five are not stiff enough for track duty and the mounting points for the GTM will not work for my Moton C5R coil over set up which is big breaking point for me since I really want to use the $11,000 worth of shocks I bought.
The downforce needed on the front of the GTM to corner is also substaintial. Without tons of frontal downforce the GTM simply is not able to turn if ANY power is applied so you have to brake early and wait until you get a straight shot out of the corner before you can give it any gas. The GTM racer is building and designing everything from scratch since no one else races a GTM and he has sooooooo much time into it.
The rear tires are able to be 345's with stock body work but the fronts are only 10" rims so you wouldn't be able to get bigger than 295 or 305's up front. For the Cannonball I need to be able to pull a small trailer and with the GTM's rear diffuser there is no place for a hitch. I did come up with a great idea for that fix though. Remove the rear license plate and put a receiver behind that. Then have an extended insert that puts the hitch about a foot off the back of the car. On the insert I would put a license plate mount. That way I could still have a plate at the rear of the vehicle AND a trailer.
Another problem of a GTM is if I crash/damage it racing replacement parts/body panels would be pretty costly.
Basically it would cost a lot to build a GTM and involve TONS of fabricating and testing to get it to be safe/competitive as a track car.
So in closing: My FRC build is gearing up for this winter's complete build up... should be a intersting! I can't wait to get the car on the track. Maybe I will see some of you guys around at different tracks.
Thanks once again for the support it really made a difference!
-Eric Winsor
08-10-2009, 04:39 PM
#14
Burning Brakes
Oh yeah I forgot about that. I don't know if the GTM would be able to turn really with that big of a tire up front since it's really meant for 245 or 265's up front. I plan to run 315's in front with my FRC when it is done though.
08-11-2009, 01:41 AM
#16
Burning Brakes
I am building my FRC to run in the 2011 Cannonball Run: One Lap of America. I want to spend this coming season testing and learning the car so that the following year we can attempt to win overall.
08-11-2009, 12:23 PM
#19
Burning Brakes
Thanks everyone. Actually ghoffman I will need some stuff this winter when I start ordering everything to finish the car up. You sell hardbar seat rails right?