sleeper02Z06

After a wonderful day with hot but clear weather the grid is set for the Saturday race.

1. Gaudette ( 1:40.2 )
2. Sanders ( 1:40.9 )
3. Kulka
4. Yarosz
5. Warren
6. Durso
7. Sloe ( did not qual, starting from rear of field )

Sorry for the lack of everyones time, i don't want to post inaccurate info. A few others that were signed up have not shown. Don't know the reasons.

This our first time back since the incident in 2007 and it feels really good not to have any issues because of it. It was tough to get Rhonda back here but she came with an open mind and we are having a ton of fun hanging with Dave Sanders as usual. Should be a crazy race with some good guys behind me to keep me honest!

Stay tuned!


Joe

VetteRacer725

Sweet!!!!

gonzalezfj

Way to go, Joe. Give'em hell!!! And watch out at T1 after the checkered flag flies...

Frank Gonzalez

Axelrod

Race update: Sleeper boy spunout under pressure during the race. Should've saved the cheerleader post for later.

Some guy with an illegal motor won 1st

Sanders 2nd

Heinricy in A-Sedan qualified FASTER than the T-1 field. Time to pick it up guys!

Bimota Guy

Huh?

BuckeyeZ06

sleeper02Z06

So how is this a cheerleader post? I let everyone know whats going on and it's cheerleading, for who?

And no I was not under pressure, I simply messed up. I readily admit it, many don't. 2 posts in and I'm already done, bravo. Go pat yourself on the back.....

Joe

wallyman424

sorry to hear you spun joe. Hope there was no damage.

Did you at least have a fun weekend? its still better than work right?

BuckeyeZ06

"Bitter Joe"

eogel

Is the declaration of an illegal motor an opinion or fact based on the protest process validating it?

Thanks

AU N EGL

TMU if there was not a legal protest then the is not an illegal motor.

Good Luck today Joe

the blur

I too heard that the guy sandbagged 90% of the race, then all the sudden flew by the 1st and 2nd place car on the straight, and then light footed the rest of the race just in front of the field.

Just what I heard. I don't care, I don't race, I don't know the guy, I'm not even an SCCA member anymore. just from what I heard everyone knows there is a cheater in the field.

SLandstra_Z06

This has turned into an ugly thread.

Well, I'm out the door, on the way up to Pocono to watch the cheater, the Sleeper and Sanders duke it out.



Steve

jasonberkeley

This guys motor was protested at another event, more than $10,000 in bond money was posted PLUS a crate motor purchased by the protestor to verify when they tore the protested motor down if each part was legal or not, and apparently the SCCA botched the whole process of the protest and subsequent tear down so badly, that they are refunding the $10k bond, AND gave the money to the guy that got protested to rebuild his car. They are "Sealing" the results of the teardown, because they apparently screwed-up the process as outlined in the GCR so badly that the results, whatever they were, could have been easily overturned.

Not too many people have the ***** and the checkbook to go ahead with a protest like that, and, when someone did the right thing to "police ourselves" (As the SCCA requires) and try and fix an OBVIOUS problem with a cheater (trust me- if the guys who filed this protest ever post their in-car video, you will see EXACTLY what I mean. This guy blows every corner, missing apexes by 3-5 feet, gets realed-in at corner exit, but pulls the following car by 20-30 car lengths down the next straight), the SCCA screws the whole process up. Not good.

Because of the way the SCCA mis-handled this, I doubt anyone else is going to go through the time and expense of taking another shot at getting this guy torn-down again. The SCCA needs to take the money they make from club racing, and keep it for club racing, and go and hire some real tech-crews to randomly hit events.

wallyman424

thats why hp/weight is easier to police.

It really sucks to hear you guys have a cheater in your midst. I know from friends experiences that it is extremely frustrating. You can always shame him into leaving, but that'll only work if he has some semblance of a conscience.

jasonberkeley

No question. After seeing this entire episode, I am inclined to believe that if the SCCA doesn't put a system in place where the sanctioning body enforces the rules (not you have to protest your buddy), than I would think the NASA system is the way to go.

drivinhard

maybe he's just REALLY talented at driving straight

SLandstra_Z06

The superior line down the straights always wins the race.

Steve

eogel

Jason,

Thanks for the explanation. Had no idea about the protest background. I agree that the possibility is very slim that anyone would subject themselves to such a tech fiasco again. Unfortunately, it puts a real damper on T1 in this particular region now, and hurts SCCA. Amazing that an organization which has been doing this so long could fail so miserably.

Ed

John Shiels

he has no conscience and if he thinks that is winning to bad for him. With others spending thousands of dollars it is sad an inspection could be so screwed up it was useless.

I filed a complaint while in boat racing and it left me standing alone with a team of about 10 drug dealers waiting for an inspector. They also threatened to burn my boat that night so we hid it. Stood my ground and when tear down was to start they split and lost.

If a bunch of racers feel the guy is cheating for sure and don't want to spend 10 grand pool yu resources of may be 1000 each and get the cheater dumped out.

When I guy is caught cheating in SCCA waht is the penalty?

If the guy drove that bad and still walked everyone the motor had to be a big cheater and very obvious to what was done. Do they do the tear down with others present like the protester or other teams in the pits? In boat racing it would happen right in the pits.