Eibach Callaway package
01-26-2010, 07:34 PM
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Eibach Callaway package
Are the sway bars that are included in the Callaway Eibach suspension option adjustable?
What are the track experiences with this package.
My use is mostly a daily driver with a few HPDE or NASA TT days a year.
What are the track experiences with this package.
My use is mostly a daily driver with a few HPDE or NASA TT days a year.
01-27-2010, 01:32 PM
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The Callaway/Eibach package has always confused me... it appears to add coil springs but doesn't remove the leafs. I think Bowmanized was putting together a package where they removed the leafs and the provided coils and went to a much heavier coil. The reports of that package were favorable with the quote being something along the lines of a car with the Bowmanized-Callaways versus a car with the HardbarUSA Penskes -- the winner of the TT was determined by who had the fresher Hoosier A6s...
01-27-2010, 07:19 PM
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I agree about the additional springs being confusing. Either go one way or the other. Adding another set of springs seems stupid. Just install the correct rates and remove the leaf springs if you want coilover dampers.
Callaway has some pretty nice parts on their race cars over in germany, but I've tried to contact them and they want nothing to do with selling race parts. They simply suggested contacting callaway over here which doesn't really have anything similar to offer. Too bad as I think there would be quite a bit of interest for their race parts.
Callaway has some pretty nice parts on their race cars over in germany, but I've tried to contact them and they want nothing to do with selling race parts. They simply suggested contacting callaway over here which doesn't really have anything similar to offer. Too bad as I think there would be quite a bit of interest for their race parts.
01-28-2010, 03:26 PM
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I believe it was b/c of the shock mounts not being engineered to support the weight of the car. There was a guy on this forum that had coilovers on his Z06, he hit a wood block on the highway and blasted the shock mount up to his hood.
Ive driven the Callaway package on winding roads, it handles very nicely and much improved compared to stock. I am no competitive driver tho.
Ive driven the Callaway package on winding roads, it handles very nicely and much improved compared to stock. I am no competitive driver tho.
01-28-2010, 06:01 PM
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I can already see somebody pulling up the LGM footage of Lou jumping a log with the LG coilovers.
The shock mounts hold up just fine with full coilovers...
The shock mounts hold up just fine with full coilovers...
01-28-2010, 06:10 PM
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LG 6x6 test
I saw this video but could not figure out what the point was.
1. What are the chances that you would be forced to drive over a 6x6?
2. Unless we have a "control" element of the test (i.e. a inferior competitive shock driven over the same 6x6. We learn nothing about the alternate competitive solutions.
1. What are the chances that you would be forced to drive over a 6x6?
2. Unless we have a "control" element of the test (i.e. a inferior competitive shock driven over the same 6x6. We learn nothing about the alternate competitive solutions.
01-28-2010, 06:21 PM
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01-28-2010, 06:36 PM
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And, CallawayChris, in the instances where this occurred what were the similarities? Always the C6Z aluminum frame? Perhaps the same ride height choice or similar?
01-28-2010, 07:19 PM
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I agree there were previous threads about this, but there's also lots of evidence out there (DRM has been using coilovers since C4 days, LGM uses coilovers on C5/C6, HardbarUSA coilovers, Moton coilovers, etc, etc) to show that the issues have been on a tiny tiny subset of the installed base that chooses to run coilovers, right?
Sorry, I just don't want to see FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) spread without it being fact based...
01-28-2010, 07:27 PM
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You can't compare the C4 coilovers to the C5/C6 as the suspension setup is completely different. Callaway used a straight coilover on their C4 packages as well.
01-28-2010, 07:29 PM
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I didn't compare them, I said DRM has used coilovers _since the C4_ meaning you can add them to the list of people successfully using coilovers on the C5 and C6 platform, just like my other examples, too.
01-28-2010, 07:49 PM
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1563407576-post144.html
Originally Posted by mcv
Callaway engineering's position is that the stock C6 Corvette chassis is not adequate to support the stresses transmitted through the shock absorber mounts once the leaf springs are eliminated. The issue isn't the ability to carry the car's static load or its ability to withstand the dynamic stresses applied to the shock mounts with a new chassis. The engineers' concern is structural fatigue that can result in and around the upper shock mounts after typical forces are applied repeatedly through the mounts over an extended period of time.
The Callaway/Eibach System was designed for street-driven applications that are also going to be driven at the track. We would have taken a different design approach if the system was intended for racing-only applications which don't accumulate street miles and where shock mounts could be modified.
Callaway used to offer a Coil-Over system for C4 Callaway Twin Turbo and SuperNatural Corvettes that eliminated the leaf springs, but ultimately discontinued the option.
The Callaway/Eibach System was designed for street-driven applications that are also going to be driven at the track. We would have taken a different design approach if the system was intended for racing-only applications which don't accumulate street miles and where shock mounts could be modified.
Callaway used to offer a Coil-Over system for C4 Callaway Twin Turbo and SuperNatural Corvettes that eliminated the leaf springs, but ultimately discontinued the option.
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01-28-2010, 07:55 PM
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Thanks for the reference! It's interesting to see Callaway's opinion in print... it seems to differ from a lot of other Corvette vendors. So I guess we'll just have to take it as individual vendors and engineering houses having differing opinions.
01-28-2010, 08:08 PM
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and some of the 1/2 dozen Z06s had suspension components piece-meal from other "engineering" companies