Can someone toe settings?
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Can someone toe settings?
As stated above, I get the concept of negative camber as it pertains to handling. I don't really understand toe settings, especially the relation of front and rear toe and how it all ties in together.
Also, what would be a good setting for primarily street, with a couple of HPDE's a year without changing settings from track to street.
Thanks.
Also, what would be a good setting for primarily street, with a couple of HPDE's a year without changing settings from track to street.
Thanks.
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1/64" to 1/32" toe-in up front, 1/16" toe-in in the rear would be good. Front toe is a personal preference, but toe-in is nicer for driving on the street. Rear toe you want enough toe-in such that when the rear toes out under load (ie. throttle) you don't go toe-out and lose stability.
Somebody that knows [a lot] more will probably have a better explanation.
Somebody that knows [a lot] more will probably have a better explanation.
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Toe,
Think of it pretty basically..
More toe out in the front will increase the quickness of turn in. So going from 0 toe out to 1/8" toe out will make the car turn into the corners quicker. Remember this also increases drag to some degree as the tires are both not pointed straight.
More toe in in the rear increases stability, especially under braking.
Notice I did say toe out at the front and toe in at the back. This is for a good reason, and you want to keep it this way.
Now in the case of a street car or say even a drag car you want them as close to straight forward as you can to increase tire life and also decrease drag
You can play around with Toe settings at the track, and on the C5/C6 cars it is pretty easy to do. 1 flat on the toe links is equal to 1/16" change in toe, so if you know which way you are starting from you can make a quick change without having to measure. Just remember to turn the link the correct way. They are right hand thread on all.
Also remember camber effects toe.
Anthony
Think of it pretty basically..
More toe out in the front will increase the quickness of turn in. So going from 0 toe out to 1/8" toe out will make the car turn into the corners quicker. Remember this also increases drag to some degree as the tires are both not pointed straight.
More toe in in the rear increases stability, especially under braking.
Notice I did say toe out at the front and toe in at the back. This is for a good reason, and you want to keep it this way.
Now in the case of a street car or say even a drag car you want them as close to straight forward as you can to increase tire life and also decrease drag
You can play around with Toe settings at the track, and on the C5/C6 cars it is pretty easy to do. 1 flat on the toe links is equal to 1/16" change in toe, so if you know which way you are starting from you can make a quick change without having to measure. Just remember to turn the link the correct way. They are right hand thread on all.
Also remember camber effects toe.
Anthony
Last edited by Anthony @ LGMotorsports; 02-06-2010 at 10:41 AM.
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I have a diagram on my site (davidfarmerstuff.com) that discusses front toe, and why it is important to have toe out. Basically, in a constant radius turn, your inside tire is "ahead" of the outside tire, and therefore needs to turn sharper than the outside tire. In other words, if your front tires are parallel in a corner, the inside tire is actually pushing AGAINST the direction you want to go. Ackerman describes the ability to have steering that actually corrects for this, but the easiest way to get some benefit is to dial in some to out.
As said, around 1/32" 0.1deg front, and 1/16"-1/8" IN in the rear. Setting toe to zero tends to make the steering pretty numb.
As said, around 1/32" 0.1deg front, and 1/16"-1/8" IN in the rear. Setting toe to zero tends to make the steering pretty numb.
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OK, I think I'm getting it.
Toe out at the front aids corner turn in, and mid turn stability.
Toe in at the rear comes into effect generally going straight.
Thank you.
Toe out at the front aids corner turn in, and mid turn stability.
Toe in at the rear comes into effect generally going straight.
Thank you.