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Old 10-06-2010, 08:09 PM
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They're switching to Pirelli for the next 5 years....

http://www.world-challenge.com/news/...php?story=1894


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Old 10-06-2010, 11:30 PM
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nice so they will be coming out with some sizes for 305 and 335 slicks hopefully?

that will be a god send if they are decent slicks!
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Originally Posted by dvandentop
nice so they will be coming out with some sizes for 305 and 335 slicks hopefully?

that will be a god send if they are decent slicks!
Well I know they already have 305s....probably 335s as well since the C6 and Vipers use that.

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Old 10-07-2010, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dvandentop
nice so they will be coming out with some sizes for 305 and 335 slicks hopefully?

that will be a god send if they are decent slicks!
AMEN !!!!!!!!!
Old 10-07-2010, 01:40 AM
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Sounds like there is going a lot of great scrubs next year!
Looks like we will get an accurate answer on how seconds a lap faster slicks are than R888's as well.
Old 10-07-2010, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sidney004
Sounds like there is going a lot of great scrubs next year!
Looks like we will get an accurate answer on how seconds a lap faster slicks are than R888's as well.
I BET 2 SECONDS!
Old 10-07-2010, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyguns
I BET 2 SECONDS!
R888s to A6s are better then that...
Old 10-07-2010, 08:44 AM
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http://www.pirellityre.com/en_IT/bro..._racing_en.pdf

Four different compounds, Super Soft( DSS), Soft (DS), Medium(DM), Hard (DH)

Sizes up to 325

TYRE SIZE VERSION ø mm SECTION WDT TREAD WTD Rolling RIMS NOTES
D mm C mm Cb circumference (Min - Max)

285/645-18 W6 - D3 - D5 655 285 / 10 280 2023 9.5 - 10 - 10.5
295/680-18 W5 - D3 689 290 / 10.5 275 2130 10 - 10.5 - 11
295/680-19 WS - DM - DS 690 285 / 10.5 275 2133 10 - 10.5 - 11
305/645-18 WS - DH - DM - DS 654 305 / 11 285 2020 10.5 - 11 - 11.5
305/660-18 W6 - D3 - D4 668 297 / 10.5 285 2064 10 - 10.5 - 11
305/680-18 WH - WS - DH - DM - DS 684 304 / 11 285 2114 10.5 - 11 - 11.5 NEW
325/650-18 WS - DH - DM - DS - DSS 650 324 / 12 300 2007 11.5 - 12 - 12.5 NEW
325/705-18 WS - DH - DM - DS - DSS 707 353 / 13 315 2187 12.5 - 13 - 13.5 NEW

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damn it now i gotta figure out what slicks sizes they use compare to micheline

30/65 and 31/71 if there is any
Old 10-07-2010, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by varkwso
R888s to A6s are better then that...
Old 10-07-2010, 01:14 PM
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with a spec tire in a small pro series like this, you run what they MAKE, they don't MAKE what you want to run. We were luck to Toyo ( the first several years) to get tires that were the right diameter/height, let alone width or compound. Then there was the year that the BMW's ran a Japanese tread and everyone ran a US tread....didn't make a difference until it rained, and the Japanese tread kicked **** (BMW LAPPED the field, even dominating the AWD Audi).

Pirelli might be more aggressive, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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No official word from Pirelli as what tire it will be. Chances are it will be the same as the Grand Am tire was. GA now using Continental. I won't hold my breath on "great" scrubs. WC has to race on the tires they qualify with. Yes there will be scrubs but we will have to wait and see the quality. Either way I am a fan of Pirelli and have faith it will be a good tire.
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Originally Posted by GT Racing Tires
No official word from Pirelli as what tire it will be. Chances are it will be the same as the Grand Am tire was. GA now using Continental. I won't hold my breath on "great" scrubs. WC has to race on the tires they qualify with. Yes there will be scrubs but we will have to wait and see the quality. Either way I am a fan of Pirelli and have faith it will be a good tire.
Conti tires in GA are rebadged Hoosiers. They intend to make their own I hear
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Yes for nor now the Conti's are Hoosiers. Hoosier is even doing the track side support.
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Originally Posted by varkwso
R888s to A6s are better then that...
Sorry for being slow (both mentally and on track) - are you saying Hoosier is 2 seconds faster that R888 on a normal track (like 2 minute lap time)? If that is true, I know which tires I will get next time..

PeO. (using R888 currently)
Old 10-07-2010, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GT Racing Tires
Yes for nor now the Conti's are Hoosiers. Hoosier is even doing the track side support.
If that's the case, then the tires they've brought must be different than the old GA spec Hoosiers. I was working on DPs when the switch was made from Hoosier to Pirelli. Bolting Pirellis on the car with no other adjustments was worth 3.5 seconds/lap at the long course at Miller. From what I've heard, the initial reactions to the Conti tire are positive, so it must be a different Hoosier carcass/compound.
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Originally Posted by PeOR
Sorry for being slow (both mentally and on track) - are you saying Hoosier is 2 seconds faster that R888 on a normal track (like 2 minute lap time)? If that is true, I know which tires I will get next time..

PeO. (using R888 currently)
On a ~2 min/lap track, A6s are worth 3 or more seconds

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Old 10-08-2010, 01:49 AM
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I have never been impressed with Pirelli
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Originally Posted by varkwso
R888s to A6s are better then that...
1.2 mile track
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Originally Posted by grantar2
I have never been impressed with Pirelli
buddy of mine ran pirelli skicks and broke his own track record. he likes them


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