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Old 10-19-2010, 06:53 AM
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Reading the Mobil literature on their racing oil products makes me want to use them in my TVS2300 LS3. Only down side seems to be that they might kill the cats sooner than the M1 15w50 I am using now.

So other than being a good citizen what is the down side of having your oil degrade the cats?

I live in Maryland so our emissions testing is only OBDII based so no exhaust gas tests!
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Originally Posted by Dan Wendling
Reading the Mobil literature on their racing oil products makes me want to use them in my TVS2300 LS3. Only down side seems to be that they might kill the cats sooner than the M1 15w50 I am using now.
Mobil quotes their racing oil's zinc content at 1850 ppm while their 5W-50 synthetic's zinc is 1200-1300 ppm according to their literature. What levels of zinc are recommended for your turbocharger installation by the manufacturer?

So other than being a good citizen what is the down side of having your oil degrade the cats?
Having to replace your cats on a regular basis isn't inexpensive and using racing oil with a recommended OCI of 500 miles is expensive too. Plus the fact you may void your engine warranty also since Mobil specifically states that its racing oils should not be used in street-driven engines.
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An Mobil repetitiveness recommended 15-W50 to us at our Corvette HPDE
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An Mobil repetitiveness recommended 15-W50 to us at our Corvette HPDE
Translation, "A Mobil 1 representative said to use 15w-50."

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Originally Posted by Dan Wendling
Reading the Mobil literature on their racing oil products makes me want to use them in my TVS2300 LS3. Only down side seems to be that they might kill the cats sooner than the M1 15w50 I am using now.

So other than being a good citizen what is the down side of having your oil degrade the cats?

I live in Maryland so our emissions testing is only OBDII based so no exhaust gas tests!
Not to mention it's extremely expensive, I recall it being $20+ per quart, that's almost $300 per change with a dry sump. In a street driven car it seems buying a new engine would be cheaper in the long run.
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Originally Posted by southern_son
Translation, "A Mobil 1 representative said to use 15w-50."

Tom used to write Norm Crosby's material for his stand-ups.
TOM knows! Use 10 W 50 for track use engines or a similar product from someone like Amsoil.

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Originally Posted by southern_son
Translation, "A Mobil 1 representative said to use 15w-50."

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Thanks! I couldn't find my Little Orphan Annie decoder ring this morning.
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Aren't the racing oils missing the detergents used in street oil? I don't think racing oils suspend the dirt and micro-debris the way street oil does.

If you change your oil often enough (read weekly) it might not matter, but if you go any length of time between oil changes then I believe you would actually experience more wear and tear in the long run.
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Aren't the racing oils missing the detergents used in street oil? I don't think racing oils suspend the dirt and micro-debris the way street oil does.

If you change your oil often enough (read weekly) it might not matter, but if you go any length of time between oil changes then I believe you would actually experience more wear and tear in the long run.
YES somewhat

Racing oils should be changed each event / weekend.
M1 racing oil is only used for 600 miles if that.
M1 "0" wt is a qualifying oil for only a few laps of use, then changed

Other options:
Red Line 40 wt
Amsoil 40 wt racing oil,
Joe Gibbs Racing oils would be good options too

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