Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
#1
Drifting
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Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
That was quite a race! I love the strategy playing out - all the way from the last qualifying session and into the outcome of the race, and championship. Shows just how tight this series has become. Petrov and Kubica certainly played interesting roles. I'd love to see Kubica in a genuinely competative car.
While I would have preferred to see Weber win the championship, he did not seem to have the package together to bring it all the way to the end. Vettel certainly earned it. I'm glad that Alonso finished more than 7 pts ahead of Weber (considering his 1-2 swap with Massa earlier in the year), it takes that little escapade out of the final equation.
Looking forward to 2011!
While I would have preferred to see Weber win the championship, he did not seem to have the package together to bring it all the way to the end. Vettel certainly earned it. I'm glad that Alonso finished more than 7 pts ahead of Weber (considering his 1-2 swap with Massa earlier in the year), it takes that little escapade out of the final equation.
Looking forward to 2011!
#3
I wonder what was going on with Webber (or his car)?
For RB, this entire season there hasn't been a gap like that in qualifying, or the race, when both cars do not break.
BTW, Schumacher is lucky to be alive.
For RB, this entire season there hasn't been a gap like that in qualifying, or the race, when both cars do not break.
BTW, Schumacher is lucky to be alive.
#4
Safety Car
That was quite a race! I love the strategy playing out - all the way from the last qualifying session and into the outcome of the race, and championship. Shows just how tight this series has become. Petrov and Kubica certainly played interesting roles. I'd love to see Kubica in a genuinely competative car.
I do think that it was pretty weenie of both Hamilton and (especially) Alonso to suggest that the Renaults should have done something other than race for position and points. Hey Fernando, you're not *entitled* to the championship! That's why they have the races, kiddies. Sheesh.
While I would have preferred to see Weber win the championship, he did not seem to have the package together to bring it all the way to the end. Vettel certainly earned it.
I'm glad that Alonso finished more than 7 pts ahead of Weber (considering his 1-2 swap with Massa earlier in the year), it takes that little escapade out of the final equation.
Looking forward to 2011!
Should be interesting, indeed!
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I take back 1/2 of the nasty things I said about RB after last weeks race. Congrats to Vettel, I never dreamed he'd pull it off. Was fun to watch Renault, a team that wasn't good enough for Alonso, stick it to him.
#6
Le Mans Master
I agree, that was a great race from a strategy POV. My favorite driver (Anybody But Alonso) won, but I don't think I saw more than a handful of passes for position on track, regardless of where they were. It'll be interesting to see how Vettel does next year.
I did like the timing of the race, running through twilight to darkness; made for great TV imagery.
Now we enter the gathering darkness of the off-season .
Have a good one,
Mike
I did like the timing of the race, running through twilight to darkness; made for great TV imagery.
Now we enter the gathering darkness of the off-season .
Have a good one,
Mike
#8
Safety Car
It was rather interesting that Webber and Vettel have been close ALL year long, yet when it comes to the final race of the year (when Webber needed a fast car) his was WAYYYY slower than Vettels...
And it isn't any big news that Red Bull's owner favored Vettel all year long...
Maybe a software tweak in the engine management side to drop the power?
And it isn't any big news that Red Bull's owner favored Vettel all year long...
Maybe a software tweak in the engine management side to drop the power?
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Safety Car
I think not. That would take perversity to a level even Formula One would have trouble understanding.
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Politics could be a reason. Webber has been complaining most of the season the team has favored Vettel. It was a great race, and at the best track on the circut too.
#11
Le Mans Master
BTW, one thing that I got lost on was what caused Alonso to drop back to 7th? Was it bad strategy, poor pit stop execution, or just the launch?
The DVR's going to get a rest now, for sure!
Have a good one,
Mike
The DVR's going to get a rest now, for sure!
Have a good one,
Mike
#12
Drifting
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That worked for objective 1, but he couldn't get ahead of Petrov.
Ironically, Weber had a bunch of hot laps from Q3 on his tires that Alonso didn't, and as it turned out they could have stayed out longer to build up the 23 sec required to not get mired in the pack (as Vettel did). Complicated stuff, very interesting.
#13
Safety Car
Fascinating stuff, it was.
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#14
Racer
Finally caught up on brazil and Abu dhabi last night. I'm slow. tough avoiding the interwebs the last few days, but I was able to keep it a secret to myself.
F1 needs to run every race at night.
pretty good season, 4 in the hunt at the end. Was pulling for webbie, but glad to see RB ****** it from Alonso.
others may disagree, but somebody needs to put Kobayashi in a good car. the kid can wheel and it would be fun to see him take it to hammy and vetty
F1 needs to run every race at night.
pretty good season, 4 in the hunt at the end. Was pulling for webbie, but glad to see RB ****** it from Alonso.
others may disagree, but somebody needs to put Kobayashi in a good car. the kid can wheel and it would be fun to see him take it to hammy and vetty
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Le Mans Master
But Ferrari failed to take into consideration that both Petrov and Rosberg had already pitted for new tires (during the lap 1 safety car), were good to go to the end of the race, and Alonso would come out behind them both on the track. And both of those cars were close enough to Alonso's pace that he was going to find it difficult to get past them. In the meantime, Vettel had checked out up front.
Fascinating stuff, it was.
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Fascinating stuff, it was.
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Have a good one,
Mike
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Safety Car
What I have always found interesting (or odd) it that with all the money that F1 teams spend on simulators, carbon fiber brake fans, etc., etc, that (apparently) no one has developed a software package that takes the relative positions of all the cars on the track, the lap times of same, the pit stop bogie time, etc., and generates a constantly updated "here's what you ought to do next" read out for the engineers. And/or a "what will happen if we do this?" scenario generator. In the big picture, this ought to be relatively simple and inexpensive and, in this case, might have saved Ferrari the world championship.
But then, F1, like most every other "society" in Earth, is often blind to the obvious. I still find it amusing that Jacques Villeneuve went from CART to F1 and brought with him the (awfully obvious) idea of front wing elements that could be adjusted during pit stops (doh!) Weren't you F1 guys watching the other big open wheel series on the planet???
The other interesting tidbit I'd forgotten was that when Bobby Rahal won the Indy 500 his engineer was Adrian Newey!
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Melting Slicks
#19
Le Mans Master
Dunno what happened to my first post anyway. 1st and foremost needs to address reckless driving, where Webber is king, he's got not business being the F1 Champion with his driving tactics, he cost Hami a real shot at the title (Singapore). I think Hami, Vett and Al were the best drivers out there. I still believe that none of them are better than "Schumacher" in the hot years.
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Le Mans Master
Hulkenberg in Q3 Brazil was simply incredible to watch. It was inevitable and a shame to see him get eaten alive from the start and now he's out at Williams. I really hope someone else gives that kid a shot. Like Kobayashi, I think he'd be fun to watch in a competitive car with more experience. I thought it was pretty funny how they kept saying that Petrov was holding up Alonzo when he had 35 laps to make a pass on fresher tires.
Vettel - pretty amazing story. 5 wins and 10 poles in 19 races, wow.
Vettel - pretty amazing story. 5 wins and 10 poles in 19 races, wow.