Sold Greenwood Spirit of Sebring 75
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Sold Greenwood Spirit of Sebring 75
I've owned it for 4 years, run it at Monterey Historics twice, Lime Rock, Coronado etc. I had it's first ever restoration done, with no expense spared, so it was safe to race again. It is a fabulous car, with an amazing sound and presence. It was built as a Superspeedway car(Daytona, etc) It wasn't quite at home on the tighter tracks.
It is going to a Swiss owner who will be vintage racing it actively, including vintage Le Mans, which will be a great track for it.
I'm busy with my GTP car and others, and I hadn't driven the Greenwood car for over a year, and didn't see me driving it anymore.
It is going to a Swiss owner who will be vintage racing it actively, including vintage Le Mans, which will be a great track for it.
I'm busy with my GTP car and others, and I hadn't driven the Greenwood car for over a year, and didn't see me driving it anymore.
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Safety Car
#6
Le Mans Master
I raced with John at Daytona. His top speed on the banking was recorded as 254mph My more or less stock 69 L-88 topped out around 180, so he passed me on the north banking with a closing speed of more than 70mph!
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Team Owner
#9
The engine was, and is 715 hp. The chassis was acid dipped, to bring the weight down to 2800 lbs. Restoring it 33 years later, we had to do a bit of frame repair and reinforcement because of the acid dipping.
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Le Mans Master
I have no documentation to disagree with you, but the Autoweek story after the race said the higher top speed. Whatever it was......it was the fastest car I have personally ever seen on top speed!
We raced at the August 1975 Talladega IMSA race where Mark Donohue's 917-30KL set the closed course record of (I think) 221mph, and I don't think Mark was any faster top speed on the straights than John was at Daytona.
We raced at the August 1975 Talladega IMSA race where Mark Donohue's 917-30KL set the closed course record of (I think) 221mph, and I don't think Mark was any faster top speed on the straights than John was at Daytona.
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Burning Brakes
My cousin raced several times at Daytona and Sebring when Greewood was racing. Jim told me that during the drivers meeting at one of the races Greenwood got up in front and told the other drivers that he was very fast and as he approaches make sure you hold your line, that he would find a way around.
Jim said that the wildest cars were the Porsches (917's maybe) that he could be flat out on the back straight and they would absolutely fly past him with exhaust blazing in the fog.
Big difference back then with no track lights, and many other classes of cars racing. I think he said there were over 80 cars racing.
Garrett, any experience or memories to share of those long ago racing days?
Jim said that the wildest cars were the Porsches (917's maybe) that he could be flat out on the back straight and they would absolutely fly past him with exhaust blazing in the fog.
Big difference back then with no track lights, and many other classes of cars racing. I think he said there were over 80 cars racing.
Garrett, any experience or memories to share of those long ago racing days?
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Was this just the oval, no road course?
Edit----ahhhh maybe no bus stop?
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Hot Rod magazine at the time said 236 MPH, and Vintage Motorsport when they made her a cover girl in 2002. You were racing in the day and you may be right. My hp to speed number say it shouldn't have even done the lower number, so the aero on the car is very good.
Allegedly Greenwood's speed contributed to the bus stop being put in.
Allegedly Greenwood's speed contributed to the bus stop being put in.
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I ran in a TO Camaro in those days and we managed 185mph at Daytona with a slightly illegal smallblock. Greenwood would pass us like we were anchored. His slipstream would blow the GTu cars down 2 lanes on the banking.
John and Burt Greenwood were often in Miami after he moved his shop to Sebring. My roommate at the time bought one of the BFG cars [the only coupe] from him in the early 80's and they rebodied it here in Florida like this Spirit car.
There was no "busstop" then at Daytona and the approach to the banking was longer so you could carry a lot more speed down the back straight. During the IMSA and FIA races at Daytona the GTO Corvettes and Camaros were always over 200mph in qualifying. There were no restricters and little tech inspection of the motors [unless you won].
I always wondered how much real power it took to push that wide body to over 230 on the banking. He would regularly smoke GTP cars top end at Daytona and Sebring.
jerry
John and Burt Greenwood were often in Miami after he moved his shop to Sebring. My roommate at the time bought one of the BFG cars [the only coupe] from him in the early 80's and they rebodied it here in Florida like this Spirit car.
There was no "busstop" then at Daytona and the approach to the banking was longer so you could carry a lot more speed down the back straight. During the IMSA and FIA races at Daytona the GTO Corvettes and Camaros were always over 200mph in qualifying. There were no restricters and little tech inspection of the motors [unless you won].
I always wondered how much real power it took to push that wide body to over 230 on the banking. He would regularly smoke GTP cars top end at Daytona and Sebring.
jerry
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Le Mans Master
I ran in a TO Camaro in those days and we managed 185mph at Daytona with a slightly illegal smallblock. Greenwood would pass us like we were anchored. His slipstream would blow the GTu cars down 2 lanes on the banking.
John and Burt Greenwood were often in Miami after he moved his shop to Sebring. My roommate at the time bought one of the BFG cars [the only coupe] from him in the early 80's and they rebodied it here in Florida like this Spirit car.
There was no "busstop" then at Daytona and the approach to the banking was longer so you could carry a lot more speed down the back straight. During the IMSA and FIA races at Daytona the GTO Corvettes and Camaros were always over 200mph in qualifying. There were no restricters and little tech inspection of the motors [unless you won].
I always wondered how much real power it took to push that wide body to over 230 on the banking. He would regularly smoke GTP cars top end at Daytona and Sebring.
jerry
John and Burt Greenwood were often in Miami after he moved his shop to Sebring. My roommate at the time bought one of the BFG cars [the only coupe] from him in the early 80's and they rebodied it here in Florida like this Spirit car.
There was no "busstop" then at Daytona and the approach to the banking was longer so you could carry a lot more speed down the back straight. During the IMSA and FIA races at Daytona the GTO Corvettes and Camaros were always over 200mph in qualifying. There were no restricters and little tech inspection of the motors [unless you won].
I always wondered how much real power it took to push that wide body to over 230 on the banking. He would regularly smoke GTP cars top end at Daytona and Sebring.
jerry
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Burning Brakes
Looking at my cousins scrapbook he ran 187 on the back straight during the 75 24 hour race. I think that's the fastest he had ever gone although he raced in several of the shorter Daytona races.
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Safety Car
Cool that the car will run at LeMans once more, sux that it is going out of the country thou. I am a bit biased...
Without trying to hijack the OP thread, more on my car can be found here http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-pictures.html
Without trying to hijack the OP thread, more on my car can be found here http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-pictures.html
Last edited by parkerracing; 12-16-2010 at 08:50 PM.
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Racer
Spirit of 75
Do you have any detailed pictures of the rear spoiler taken during the restoration or can give me an idea of how to replicate it on my '69?
I have a car with the first design Eckler's flairs and that swimming pool rear spoiler and would like to try to change the rear spoiler.
Did the end plates just attach to the rear bodywork? I don't remember them doing anthing but unpluging the lights when taking the rear bodywork off the car in the paddock at Daytona. I crewed with the #61, red and white Vette of Lamar Mann back then. That's why I let passion overcome reason and traded my '96 for this '69.
Congratulations on the sale and I understand how that car would be a bull in a china shop in most vintage races.
Any insite you can give me on trying to replicate that spoiler would help. PM me and I'll be glad to respond.
Thanks,
I have a car with the first design Eckler's flairs and that swimming pool rear spoiler and would like to try to change the rear spoiler.
Did the end plates just attach to the rear bodywork? I don't remember them doing anthing but unpluging the lights when taking the rear bodywork off the car in the paddock at Daytona. I crewed with the #61, red and white Vette of Lamar Mann back then. That's why I let passion overcome reason and traded my '96 for this '69.
Congratulations on the sale and I understand how that car would be a bull in a china shop in most vintage races.
Any insite you can give me on trying to replicate that spoiler would help. PM me and I'll be glad to respond.
Thanks,
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racerods@yahoo.com
That's Lance Smith's email. He knows more about the cars than anyone whose name isn't Greenwood or Fornier. He's always happy to help.
That's Lance Smith's email. He knows more about the cars than anyone whose name isn't Greenwood or Fornier. He's always happy to help.