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Old 01-26-2011, 09:36 AM
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I am getting ready to replace the tires on my 2006 Silverado 1500. I tow my vette with a dual axle open car hauler. Total weight (both car and trailer) is a little less than 5000 lbs. Plus, there is probably a couple hundred lbs in tires, etc in the bed when I tow. I was looking on Tire Rack at the Michelin LTX MS/2 tires and I saw that they have them in my size with a standard tire (load index of 108--can handle up to 2200 lbs) and an E Rated tire which is rated for more than 3000 lbs. With the load described above, would there be any advantage to ordering the E Rated tires? Or am I fine with the standard tires?

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What's it worth to not have to change a tire on the side if the road. At night. In the rain. When you're already late?
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What's it worth to not have to change a tire on the side if the road. At night. In the rain. When you're already late?

Listen to this advice, he has had more than his share of changing tires on the side of the road. at night. in the rain. and always late
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what size are those? It seems a little low for a truck tire an might be a little squirmy towing.

look a couple sizes up. I went from a 245 70 17 on my jeep to a 265 70 17 and I think I'm at 2800 lbs and 3200 for the respective load ranges rather than the 2400 and 2800.

Looks like a jeep now too. 31" tire is perfect on a truck.
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Originally Posted by NASAblue
what size are those? It seems a little low for a truck tire an might be a little squirmy towing.

look a couple sizes up. I went from a 245 70 17 on my jeep to a 265 70 17 and I think I'm at 2800 lbs and 3200 for the respective load ranges rather than the 2400 and 2800.

Looks like a jeep now too. 31" tire is perfect on a truck.
They are 245/70/17. Not sure what width the wheels are but I imagine they could handle 265s.

I've never had an issue with getting flats while towing. But, I imagine an E-rated tire could probably help get rid of the sway I feel when it is breezy or when being passed by trucks. On the downside I imagine the unloaded ride will be a bit harsher?
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price difference is? I would tend to go with the E rated but I would not jump up the size very much if any.

The Michelin LTX MS/2 is the new tire from them if you can find the older version they are about half price and a great tire also. I was quoted 100 vs 200 for my Excursion yesterday.

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I tow with F250 Super duty E-ply tire and would never go to a different ply tire I guess you have to ask yourself what is the price of the car you are towing worth to you, since having a blowout and towing could cause major problems not to mention the other things mentioned in here. There have been enough people on here towing their cars and having a blowout or flat. The last of it is if this does happen and you claim it on insurance or by chance they find out you are not running the proper tires then the claim can be denied so with this you decide what is an extra 50 dollars a tire worth.
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We did this on our 06 Sierra CC. I went from the 245/70/17 to 265/65/17. Keeps the same OD so the speedo and gearing is the same.

Personally, I am running the Kumho Road Venture KL51. Absolutely fantastic tire. Quiet, smooth, good in rain/snow and handles the load well. They're rated at a 112H and have as good or better ratings than the Michelins for a lot less. I can't recommend them enough.

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Sears was half price on my Excursion for Michelin's I have been getting 55,000 on them with always a 10,000 GVW. Depth don't mean everything if the rubber wears away faster on a crap tire. You would also get more squirm on deeper treads probably. Michelin is tough to beat. The Excusion came with BFG and they have 70,000 on them and will go near another 7-10 I would guess.

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wELL, i have the 4.8 and the 3.23 rear end so I need all the help I can get when it comes to gearing. Even changing it a couple % will throw it off the curve. Unloaded, without trailer it will cruise at 75mph and knockdown 23-24mpg. 18 with an unloaded trailer and with the vette on the trailer at 70mph about 15-16.



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I stayed with the same R265 5 rib bridgestone tires on my 06 2500 Silverado CC that were OEM. Most other tires are not stiff enough in the side wall to wear and ride well under load with a truck that size. Got 55k on the first set run pretty hard without enough rotation. This set will probably go 65-70k. 245/75/16 though.

Good tire, in the $180 range

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the 245/70/17's on the 1500's were usually General Ameritracs. One of the worst tires ever made..... made the Uniroyal Tiger Paw look like a great tire.
Old 01-26-2011, 10:28 PM
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there are those on this board (might chime in any time) that claim increasing load rating does NOT increase reliability unless you are going over the weight. I, for one, agree with those and would recommend getting the e-rated tires if you can afford it.

I hope to eventually upgrade all of my trailer tires to a higher rating as well. I just feel better knowing I'm as far from the load limit as possible.
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I currently have the 245/70/17 general ameritracs on my 01 Z71. I have had them for 2 years now with no issues. I also tow an open steel trailer with my 73 or 76 vette on it with a load of tires in the bed. I don't get sway when towing my trailer with the vette on it. I do have a load leveling hitch. The only thing I notice is that they don't grip very well in the snow and I have to use 4wd more often.

I bought these from a shop around me that gets brand new take offs from the RV converters. I got the whole set of tires and wheels for $400.

If your owners manual states you can haul your load on the stock tires, you don't need anything better. Will it help to get the better tires? It might. If hauling a load grater than the stock tires can handle, it would be wise to step up to the better tires.
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^ Trust me, get some good tires on that truck and it'll be a night and day experience.
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Take a look at Firestones Transforce HT. Great highway tire I get 50,000 miles on these their on my entire fleet. They come in D 8 ply, and E 10ply. You do not need a E rated tire on a 1500. If the trailer is loaded correctly the weight is on the trailer tires and very little is on the tounge. Even if you have stuff in the bed, 10 ply tire is more then you need.
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Isn't the load rating for actual weight on the tire, not how much you are towing? A 2200 load rating means your truck can weight up to 8800 lbs without overloading the tires. Right? I haven't towed anything other than a boat so I'm not an expert.

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Old 01-28-2011, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by F4Gary
Isn't the load rating for actual weight on the tire, not how much you are towing? A 2200 load rating means your truck can weight up to 8800 lbs without overloading the tires. Right? I haven't towed anything other than a boat so I'm not an expert.
yes but it also means each tire is limited to that 2200 so you cannot overload one tire or axle.
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Thanks for all the info guys. I went ahead and got my local tire shop to match Tire Rack on the set of Michelin M/S2s with the E Load rating. I have them set at 40 psi and the ride is mildly firmer than before. Truck seems much more assured and "hooks up" better when getting on it than it ever did with any of the other tires I had on there (Good Years and the OEM General tires)

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I know op has purchased tires, but wanted to put in good word for Bridgestone Dueler that came stock on my 07 Tahoe. I have @58K miles on it and still have about 40% tread left and good even wear all around. I never have rotated the tires either. I would have rotated, but with the even wear, I didn't want to disrupt anything. Without a doubt, I will replace the current tires with the same Bidgestone's when the time comes.


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