ptindall

Here is my 2001 Z06 with stock suspension and street tires. Do you think this is too much body roll? I'm planning to get pfadt's Jonny O'Connel sway bars because the rate seems pretty good and they are reasonably priced. Thoughts?

rasrboy

Looks pretty good to me for a downhill off camber turn.

Can't go wrong with Pfadt's product line though and they are great people to boot.

96solo

I agree with Aaron. Pfadt folks are great to work with.

I used the Hotchkiss sways before the T-1's. Great bars with heim joints, very light weight, and no noise. Great for autocrossing or street!

What that photo shot taken at the new Inde track?

Screamin Z

Quick transiton corners, hard left and hard right (VIR 4 and 5 come to mind) You can really tell the affects of body roll. Takes just a split second longer to transfer load. Id say a set of sways or just fronts wont do any harm!

ptindall

Great track.

Bills Z06

Not bad at all, but if you really want flatter cornering, get a set of T1 sway bars front and rear. I would also recommend the adjustable end links. Good luck!

ptindall

I would, but from what I've seen the T1 bars cost $1000. WTF? Pfadt's site shows the O'Connel bars are just slightly less stiff than the T-1 bars and come with non noisy adjustable end links and poly bushings for $625. Or $1000 with the matching shocks. Is there a place I can buy the T-1 bars, end links, and bushing for a similar price?

John Shiels

you can look for used ones.

travisnd

Keep an eye out for used T1 bars.... I bought a set for $400 w/ endlinks. However, the RF end link was going bad so I replaced them with Powergrid endlinks which are a huge upgrade IMO. No more clanky heim-joints with limited range of motion.

drivinhard

Here's a T1 bar set up (stock springs). Note this car (pre cage, lots of low ballast) had a very low cg.


I actually wish I could (and plan to) soften the front bar. Depending on the track, some (slower) weight transfer is not a bad thing.

sperkins

And here's it's sister car. Same exact suspension setup, but with a higher center of gravity (1.20 wall cage).

ipuig

Why are you worried about it, is it causing you problems with pushing or being loose in the turns? Is the car allready lowerd to the maximum recommended by the OEM? Have you tried dialing in a little negative camber?

sperkins

That's because you went from the 1,700lb nose weight the T1 bars were designed for down to 1300lbs.

ptindall

I was too loose last time out. It took very little throttle make the car rotate. But more importantly, in head to head comparison with C6Z06s, I had much more body roll than them and less overall grip. Even in a balanced condition, maximizing corner speed I was being equalled or bested by C6Z06s on street tires taking worse lines with less body roll.


Yes.

When I had the car aligned a couple years ago this is what it was set to.

Front: -1.5 camber, 0 toe. All the equal caster you can get.
Rear: -1.0 camber, 1/8 total toe in.


Tire wear has been very even accross the tire both front and rear, so I've been happy with camber. Maybe I could use more anyway? My rears have worn quicker than my fronts.

John Shiels

anti-sways help but to take out the roll you need heavier leafs or coil-overs.

ipuig

C6Zs run a lot more rear tire than we do, I'm runnig nearly the same alignment specs with the exception of the rear toe, I set mine to 0, it seemed to make the car a little more planted coming out of the corners for me. Of course I can still easily break the rear loose if I'm too aggressive.

sperkins

Street car or track car. You can't really have both.