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Old 06-07-2011, 09:02 PM
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Ok, before I undertake this job I'd like some advice.

What things do I need to order so that I'll be able to do the swap smoothly? Swapping LS6 w/ a caddy LS6

I have already:
-vette oil pan/windage tray/pickup tube
-ordered a new pilot bearing

What else do I need that I cant transfer over from the other motor?
Old 06-07-2011, 10:34 PM
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Do you have a pic of the Caddy motor currently to make this a little easier?
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nope, according to the internet, all I need to convert the caddi motor to a vette motor are the oil pan parts, which I have. I'm just thinking of other little things I might have missed.
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Watching this thread closely since I'll be doing the same thing I expect very soon.
Wally - where did you get the tray, pickup and pan?
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Watching this thread closely since I'll be doing the same thing I expect very soon.
Wally - where did you get the tray, pickup and pan?
fleabay for 250. I'll take lots of pictures for ya scott.
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Originally Posted by wallyman424
Ok, before I undertake this job I'd like some advice.

What things do I need to order so that I'll be able to do the swap smoothly? Swapping LS6 w/ a caddy LS6

I have already:
-vette oil pan/windage tray/pickup tube
-ordered a new pilot bearing

What else do I need that I cant transfer over from the other motor?
make sure crank teeth is the matching kind for the z06. some ls6 used different reluctor wheels didnt it?
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Originally Posted by wallyman424
fleabay for 250. I'll take lots of pictures for ya scott.
Thanks.
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I replaced the LS1 in my 99 with the Caddy LS6. As I recall, the main thing you need is gaskets:
- Exhast mainfold gaskets
- Intake manifold gaskets
- Oil pan gasket
- Water pump gasket
- Wather pump O-ring (I don't even remember what this was)
Old 06-08-2011, 09:44 AM
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Last time I did one it was about 1 am when we were swapping the parts over (Jerry Onks car at the 09 Run-offs) but the pan/windage tray and pick-up were reused - make sure that you prime the oil pump with some type of pre-lube (I usually use Comp Cams Cam and Lifter Install Lube)
http://www.jegs.com/i/Comp-Cams/249/...oductId=753157
Prime the pump and make sure the O-ring slides in easy.
You can re-use most of the seals if you want - obviously look them over for condition. But that's the nice thing about the gaskets in the LS engines no clean-up and for the most part they can be reused.
Those pilot bearings can be a real pain so do yourself a favor and rent a puller if you don't have one. If you have any questions I can PM you my cell.
Have fun - Joel
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Originally Posted by 96CollectorSport
Last time I did one it was about 1 am when we were swapping the parts over (Jerry Onks car at the 09 Run-offs) but the pan/windage tray and pick-up were reused - make sure that you prime the oil pump with some type of pre-lube (I usually use Comp Cams Cam and Lifter Install Lube)
http://www.jegs.com/i/Comp-Cams/249/...oductId=753157
Prime the pump and make sure the O-ring slides in easy.
You can re-use most of the seals if you want - obviously look them over for condition. But that's the nice thing about the gaskets in the LS engines no clean-up and for the most part they can be reused.
Those pilot bearings can be a real pain so do yourself a favor and rent a puller if you don't have one. If you have any questions I can PM you my cell.
Have fun - Joel
when i did mine in late '08 I changed the pan and pick up,didn't use the exhaust,or the clutch that came with it..everything fit..it was my first engine replace ..still runs fine...

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Ok, I will show my ignorance here and just ask. Why a caddy LS6? Is this the CTS-V engine?
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Ok, I will show my ignorance here and just ask. Why a caddy LS6? Is this the CTS-V engine?
yeah, and the answer to why is b/c there are no other ls6's left.
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Originally Posted by mfquinn
Ok, I will show my ignorance here and just ask. Why a caddy LS6? Is this the CTS-V engine?
The caddy engine is the one that you can order for a little over 3k and is readly available. I swapped mine a couple years ago and all I needed to buy was the pilot . Everything else I was able to take off the ls1.
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2nd question about the pilot bearing. Can I buy it from napa (aka non-oem) or is this something that really has to be OEM? I don't think my bearing from gene cully is going to get here in time.
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Originally Posted by wallyman424
2nd question about the pilot bearing. Can I buy it from napa (aka non-oem) or is this something that really has to be OEM? I don't think my bearing from gene cully is going to get here in time.
First check your local Chevy dealer(s). Mine had them in stock on the shelf.
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The pilot bearing should be around somewhere local. It's just a roller bearing pilot bearing, same as in any 350. GM part #1406185, we always have a few in stock. I would think you should be able to find one.
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If you make it to Rd Atl, be sure to bring a few boat anchors to throw in the trunk. Khoi's crate LS6 made over 390 at the tires right out of the box on the stock tune.
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The swap requires the windage tray, pick-up, pan, and balancer/pulley. The CTSV pulley is slightly larger. You could use a slightly longer belt. Got the pilot bearing at Napa. CTSV uses a larger pilot bearing at the end of the crank shaft; the vette is smaller and sits deeper in the end of the crank shaft.

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