Possible aero balance issue?
#1
Possible aero balance issue?
I just installed the Glover rear diffuser on my C6, and wanted input before my next event (VIR full course). Think this will cause enough rear downforce to cause a balance issue at speed? I'm concerned about the uphill esses in particular. Any input would be appreciated!
Here is the rear diffuser on the car:
Here is the rear diffuser on the car:
#2
Drifting
Nice looking diffuser!
Did the vendor do any wind tunnel testing that indicates you are going to improve your rear down force?
My guess would be that you would not even notice any difference, but that's nothing more than a WAG.
Start at the same entry speed and see if you can feel any difference.
Will you be there with TrackDaze this week?
Jim
Did the vendor do any wind tunnel testing that indicates you are going to improve your rear down force?
My guess would be that you would not even notice any difference, but that's nothing more than a WAG.
Start at the same entry speed and see if you can feel any difference.
Will you be there with TrackDaze this week?
Jim
#5
Safety Car
My understanding is that the center section for the exhaust really prohibits the setup from working well.
I doubt you will feel a difference (or at least nothing like running a wing w/o a splitter)
I doubt you will feel a difference (or at least nothing like running a wing w/o a splitter)
#6
Race Director
I don't think it will make a difference, but worse case it will keep the rear settled as you crest turn 8 (the yump). Understeer is rarely a bad think from a safety/balance standpoint.
#7
Racer
I run that same diffuser with MTI front splitter and MTI rear spoiler, and zr1 styled side skirts. I can't say I noticed any differance on the track compared to a car I drove with zr1 front splitter and rear spoiler with stock diffuser..
You might want to check all the screws in the diffuser.. I an issue with the screws falling out at the track last weekend. Ended up zip tying the the diffuser to the bracket in on the one side as a band aid..
You might want to check all the screws in the diffuser.. I an issue with the screws falling out at the track last weekend. Ended up zip tying the the diffuser to the bracket in on the one side as a band aid..
#8
Melting Slicks
You probably won't notice any difference. I bolted an APR wing on the back of my C5Z which provides a lot of rear downforce and it was noticeable and resulted in decreased lap times (for a couple laps). For example at Thunderhill I went from mid 1:55's with no aero to mid 1:53's with the wing. After a few laps, the front tires started getting hot and the car pushed. More rear down-force will make the car easier to drive and more confidence inspiring, but if you start to push you will have to lift off the gas to get the front end to bite and turn in.
#9
Former Vendor
I have seen that diffuser up close on a lift. It IS a nice cosmetic look.
Aero is a very, very scientific chain of events. One aero device affects another. You absolutely MUST go to the wind tunnel to verify what works, and why things don't work.
In order for a diffuser be effective, the diffuser airpath needs to start from at least from the middle of the car. Even then, the shape has a huge influence on the airflow path.
For example,
This is a diffuser that we made for our MTI Racing Track Package.
It is hardcore, but it helped us to cut a 1:54 laptime at VIR.
Grassroots Motorsports magazine upcoming Nov issue has a full writeup on the MTI Racing Track Package. It will be released on our website shortly.
Aero is a very, very scientific chain of events. One aero device affects another. You absolutely MUST go to the wind tunnel to verify what works, and why things don't work.
In order for a diffuser be effective, the diffuser airpath needs to start from at least from the middle of the car. Even then, the shape has a huge influence on the airflow path.
For example,
This is a diffuser that we made for our MTI Racing Track Package.
It is hardcore, but it helped us to cut a 1:54 laptime at VIR.
Grassroots Motorsports magazine upcoming Nov issue has a full writeup on the MTI Racing Track Package. It will be released on our website shortly.
#10
Safety Car
Which wing? No splitter?
You probably won't notice any difference. I bolted an APR wing on the back of my C5Z which provides a lot of rear downforce and it was noticeable and resulted in decreased lap times (for a couple laps). For example at Thunderhill I went from mid 1:55's with no aero to mid 1:53's with the wing. After a few laps, the front tires started getting hot and the car pushed. More rear down-force will make the car easier to drive and more confidence inspiring, but if you start to push you will have to lift off the gas to get the front end to bite and turn in.
You probably won't notice any difference. I bolted an APR wing on the back of my C5Z which provides a lot of rear downforce and it was noticeable and resulted in decreased lap times (for a couple laps). For example at Thunderhill I went from mid 1:55's with no aero to mid 1:53's with the wing. After a few laps, the front tires started getting hot and the car pushed. More rear down-force will make the car easier to drive and more confidence inspiring, but if you start to push you will have to lift off the gas to get the front end to bite and turn in.
#11
Melting Slicks
#12
I have seen that diffuser up close on a lift. It IS a nice cosmetic look.
Aero is a very, very scientific chain of events. One aero device affects another. You absolutely MUST go to the wind tunnel to verify what works, and why things don't work.
In order for a diffuser be effective, the diffuser airpath needs to start from at least from the middle of the car. Even then, the shape has a huge influence on the airflow path.
For example,
This is a diffuser that we made for our MTI Racing Track Package.
It is hardcore, but it helped us to cut a 1:54 laptime at VIR.
Grassroots Motorsports magazine upcoming Nov issue has a full writeup on the MTI Racing Track Package. It will be released on our website shortly.
Aero is a very, very scientific chain of events. One aero device affects another. You absolutely MUST go to the wind tunnel to verify what works, and why things don't work.
In order for a diffuser be effective, the diffuser airpath needs to start from at least from the middle of the car. Even then, the shape has a huge influence on the airflow path.
For example,
This is a diffuser that we made for our MTI Racing Track Package.
It is hardcore, but it helped us to cut a 1:54 laptime at VIR.
Grassroots Motorsports magazine upcoming Nov issue has a full writeup on the MTI Racing Track Package. It will be released on our website shortly.
#13
Safety Car
Is that a GTC-300 or GTC-500? The 5 looks like it has a ton of downforce (vs the Kognition and the Fulcrum), though obviously more drag.
Is another 200hp and full aero really only worth ~3sec @ VIR vs a C6Z with bolt-ons (Todd's car)??
Is another 200hp and full aero really only worth ~3sec @ VIR vs a C6Z with bolt-ons (Todd's car)??
#14
Le Mans Master
#15
Safety Car
Thanks for that correction. I prefer the Kognition mounting setup as well. And they have a picture of an awesome corvette, so I am totally sold!!
Are you running a 4" splitter?
Are you running a 4" splitter?
#16
Le Mans Master