Pics: World's Fastest 1963 Ford Falcons
09-18-2011, 10:27 PM
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Drifting
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Pics: World's Fastest 1963 Ford Falcons
The GT-1 Falcons of Dave Machavern and Bill Riddell, built by Tommy Riggins at Riggins Engineering.
Tommy drove Dave's Blue #26 at Daytona last month and cut an incredible 1:46 on the test day. He put her on the pole for saturday race at 1:47 and won the race with Riddell coming in second.
Tommy drove Dave's Blue #26 at Daytona last month and cut an incredible 1:46 on the test day. He put her on the pole for saturday race at 1:47 and won the race with Riddell coming in second.
09-19-2011, 12:58 PM
#4
Former Vendor
Here you go.
I have always liked the 63 Falcon, I saw a full tube frame pro street that was just bad to the bone, 500+ cubic inch, etc....and I am a pro tour and road race enthusiast as heart so these road race 63s are super cool to me
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39934931@N05/6066484093/
Rick
I have always liked the 63 Falcon, I saw a full tube frame pro street that was just bad to the bone, 500+ cubic inch, etc....and I am a pro tour and road race enthusiast as heart so these road race 63s are super cool to me
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39934931@N05/6066484093/
Rick
09-19-2011, 01:47 PM
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09-19-2011, 02:20 PM
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Former Vendor
I think the front would look much better with at least painted on headlights, a bit un 63 Falcon the way they are, the back looks great!
I still think it is a dang cool car though
Rick
I still think it is a dang cool car though
Rick
09-19-2011, 02:30 PM
#11
Racer
From what I've heard, one of Bill's first cars was a '63 Falcon and he wanted a GT1 car that was "a little different".
Dave is a Ford and Toyota dealer and it looks better for him to be winning in a Ford than the Vette he has been campaigning for the last few years.
I saw Dave's car when it was just days from being finished at Tommy's and can't describe how cool a brand new, no chips or scratches, state of the art race car looks. They got the drool off of it before taking it on the road.
Locke
Dave is a Ford and Toyota dealer and it looks better for him to be winning in a Ford than the Vette he has been campaigning for the last few years.
I saw Dave's car when it was just days from being finished at Tommy's and can't describe how cool a brand new, no chips or scratches, state of the art race car looks. They got the drool off of it before taking it on the road.
Locke
09-19-2011, 03:13 PM
#12
Le Mans Master
Gotta love those Falcons!
Here's one built by Holman Moody:
Here's one built by Holman Moody:
09-23-2011, 10:49 AM
#14
Melting Slicks
Well, that's "sorta" a 63 Falcon body in that the fenders and rear deck are probably molded off of one, and the rear window line is close, but the top has been chopped, the windshield is lower and is raked a heck of a lot more than any 63 Falcon that Ford ever built. GT cars are supposed to have the basic silhouette of the donor car, and these don't do that. I looked up the GT class rules, section 9.1.2 and here is what it says about windshields...
Bold and italics are mine, but I didn't think you could do that kind of funny car shape within the GT class rules. If they got the bodywork approved for Trans Am, it is legal, but per the GT1 rules you can't do what they did.
Fun car, cool car, but not even close to a legal GT1 car....
g. The original angle of the windshield shall be maintained unless alternate components and/or specifications are specifically authorized in the GTCS.
h. All cars may use a standard safety glass windshield, mounted in the stock location and at the stock angle. In addition to any other method of retention, the windshield shall be secured within the specifications of GCR Section 9.3 Windshield Clips. Polycarbonate windshields such as Lexan are allowed. Alternate windshields must be of 6mm minimum thickness. Alternate material windshields must be identical in size and curvature to the original glass component.
h. All cars may use a standard safety glass windshield, mounted in the stock location and at the stock angle. In addition to any other method of retention, the windshield shall be secured within the specifications of GCR Section 9.3 Windshield Clips. Polycarbonate windshields such as Lexan are allowed. Alternate windshields must be of 6mm minimum thickness. Alternate material windshields must be identical in size and curvature to the original glass component.
Fun car, cool car, but not even close to a legal GT1 car....
09-23-2011, 01:19 PM
#15
Drifting
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Well, that's "sorta" a 63 Falcon body in that the fenders and rear deck are probably molded off of one, and the rear window line is close, but the top has been chopped, the windshield is lower and is raked a heck of a lot more than any 63 Falcon that Ford ever built. GT cars are supposed to have the basic silhouette of the donor car, and these don't do that. I looked up the GT class rules, section 9.1.2 and here is what it says about windshields...
Bold and italics are mine, but I didn't think you could do that kind of funny car shape within the GT class rules. If they got the bodywork approved for Trans Am, it is legal, but per the GT1 rules you can't do what they did.
Fun car, cool car, but not even close to a legal GT1 car....
Bold and italics are mine, but I didn't think you could do that kind of funny car shape within the GT class rules. If they got the bodywork approved for Trans Am, it is legal, but per the GT1 rules you can't do what they did.
Fun car, cool car, but not even close to a legal GT1 car....
09-23-2011, 03:31 PM
#16
Melting Slicks
Since TransAm cars are just caractures of street cars and they let them run in GT-1, I guess it really doesn't matter. They can obviously "approve" anything.
The SCCA used to be pretty much sticklers for rules, but in TransAm and the V8 series it is pretty much "run what ya brung" as far as bodywork is concerned. That's unfortunate because with a "moving rulebook" there is always speed creep and you have to keep changing things to keep up.
A good example of this happened in Daytona Prototypes. The first generation of cars were designed to a strict relationship of the A pillar and bodywook. This made the cars unattractive and slower. Then somebody (I think it was Riley) built some cars that didn't even resemble what was in the rules in that regard. Teams showed up with them and, since the fields were so thin, they let them run anyway even though they didn't meet the rules. They were just "approved" because they organizers needed cars. Well, that screwed the guys that designed and had been running cars that were legal and built to the rules. While that approach gets you a few more cars for a while, after you get screwed a couple of times with things like that you just go home and don't come back.
Everybody wants to win, but if you let anybody bring anything to race, you might just as well not have any rules.
The SCCA used to be pretty much sticklers for rules, but in TransAm and the V8 series it is pretty much "run what ya brung" as far as bodywork is concerned. That's unfortunate because with a "moving rulebook" there is always speed creep and you have to keep changing things to keep up.
A good example of this happened in Daytona Prototypes. The first generation of cars were designed to a strict relationship of the A pillar and bodywook. This made the cars unattractive and slower. Then somebody (I think it was Riley) built some cars that didn't even resemble what was in the rules in that regard. Teams showed up with them and, since the fields were so thin, they let them run anyway even though they didn't meet the rules. They were just "approved" because they organizers needed cars. Well, that screwed the guys that designed and had been running cars that were legal and built to the rules. While that approach gets you a few more cars for a while, after you get screwed a couple of times with things like that you just go home and don't come back.
Everybody wants to win, but if you let anybody bring anything to race, you might just as well not have any rules.
04-18-2012, 08:03 AM
#19
Drifting
Thread Starter
Nice story in the just released May edition of GrassRoots Motorsports Magazine about the Riggins built Falcons of Machavern and Riddell.
Both likely will be at Daytona to compete with V8 StockCar and SCCA May 5&6.
Both likely will be at Daytona to compete with V8 StockCar and SCCA May 5&6.
