Falcon

Anyone read the new requirements on Dyno Certifications?

Page 8 & 9.

96CollectorSport

Just another form to fill out, I also think it's nice to have a little accountability when it comes to the dyno operators. They also have a nice guideline for the dyno operator to follow. I'm sure the contact info will only be used if they find something fishy

travisnd

At first I though they changed it so you had to have a fresh dyno every year, but then I saw the 3 year thing still applies so long as there haven't been any changes made to affect power.

Jason

They forgot to add:
Section 8.1.3 - All cars will be required to submit to dyno testing during National Championships, except AWD cars. We'll just take their word for it.

Falcon

Except for....

"However, at his discretion, a NASA ST Director(or Race Director) may require an updated certified Dyno report (at the driver’s/owner’s
expense) after one year from the date of the previous report."

Now to the rule itself:

What does it mean by submitted? Does that mean I have to turn in (submit) my ST classification forms (with dyno sheet) to the various ST directors of the regions before Jan. 9th to avoid the certification route?

I think I know the intention, but, IMHO, the language can be cleaned up a bit to avoid misunderstanding.

travisnd

Yeah if they think something may be up with your car they can require you to submit a new dyno.

Not sure of the timing. I'm working on my car now and will be running TTA at VIR in February so I won't be doing an updated dyno sheet anytime soon. If I race ST2 in March at VIR I'll need an updated one prior to that.

PushinTheLimit

Sperkins posted pics in my thread over on NasaForums and I sent that in a PM to Greg for his review if the outside edges of the frame can be cut off flush with the rails. Once I hear back from him... I'll spread the word.

travisnd

My sawzall awaits his response

RX-Ben

Are mobile AWD dynos really a rare bird?

travisnd

I'm not sure... but you'd think they'd make sure to have one for Nationals.

yakisoba

No active aero either... Going to hurt all those 3000GT competitors. Oh, the humanity.

RX-Ben

The way I read it, factory active aero that came with the car as-classed is fine, active aero mods are not.

Given that the rules tend to be punitive towards high $ mods (at least in TTA-F), I think this was inevitable. Not shocked that it got nixed elsewhere, since just about every form of racing frowns on it.

Oyishdog

First time I have been on the forum in months...cliff notes on this one? Do I have to submit this before Monday?

Jody - I still need to meet up with you to pick up that two prong puller

travisnd

I don't see anything that says anything has to be submitted before Monday or any specific date. If you're dyno sheet is more than 3 years old or you've dont mods that affect power output then you need to provide a new dyno sheet with your classification forms before your first race.

Oyishdog

Yup...see that now. The 1/9/12 date jumped out at me as a cutoff date to avoid another dyno trip since my last one was in spring/summer last year.

clubracer6

Thankfully, AWD cars are not a real threat in ST2!

Falcon

Yea, it's still in the back seat of my truck along with your beer mug for 1st place.

I just emailed my 2012 classification sheet and dyno graph to Randy a few minutes ago. If I can find who the ST director is with Mid Atlantic, I'll send him/her one, too. Probably the Northeast director, too.

PushinTheLimit

Here is the official ruling on trimming the ends of the frame rails...

"Ok guys, we have reviewed this potential modification as shown in the photos with just the ends trimmed off of the bumper supports crossing at the front and rear of the frame rails, and we believe that this would be a legal modification in ST (and TTS/TTU). The trimming should not go past where the "actual" frame rails end.

Also, we have had a bunch of questions about Corvette frame mods the past few days, and FYI, it is not permitted to cut holes in the frame rails to use as brake ducting, exhaust routing, etc."

L98Terror

Looks like the 7 only cars are now STR-2 does that mean everyone on the west coast will run STR2 instead of ST2 to keep car counts up? IMO that sucks because they were from 4-6 of our National car count.

travisnd

This farks things up for Danny and James... they both have side exhaust going through the frame rail.

Also, can this be done for PT or just ST?

EDIT - You sure you want those frame ends gone? they probably saved the main frame rails from more damage by taking the impact. Just a thought... trying to decide if I want to cut them off myself.