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Old 04-08-2012, 10:13 AM
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Need opinions. A brief background:

When we began our construction on the 1984 chassis, we took the time to insure the frame was right. I did the FSM check. That indicated the frame was it was a little out of whack. No surprise with a C4.

This was the condition it went to the shop in, the chalk lines are the FMS points.



A $300.00 expense was reasonable to insure that the frame had no dramatic problems. This was done on a seemingly sophisticated machine at a body shop owned by a major Fords dealership in Cumming Ga. Lasers, computers... looked like the right stuff. It was pronounced “Good”. No damage bad enough to warrant re-welds.

We wanted a safe car, and had a 6 point roll cage installed by a professional SFI certified guy with a long history of constructions [ mostly Drag stuff and no Corvettes but a good friend of one our group ] . So a lot of very “hot” welds at a lot of crucial places on a corvette where made [ door pillars and at the rear section support]

When the car was finished, the left rear tire was ¾” further “inboard” than the right [ or the opposite? ]. This was where I thought it was before [ to my eye and paper work] ...........................

..............“ It is a visual thing..” “ Body panels not perfect..” ... “ It’s a 27 year old car!” .... “All Corvettes vary, it’s not a Porsche, you know” .......... That was the advice.

Base alignment was done and the Tech. Pronounced it fine [ a Famous Chev. owned alignment shop].

Well, whatever “fine” means the adjustments left to right are drastically different in camber and caster shims. [ again with the “ All Corvettes vary, it’s not a Porsche you know”.]

1st time out on the track last month, and the thing was squirrely at speed. Granted it needed a lot twitching to get the suspension adjusted. And it did improve a great deal.... And granted we are green as the new grass to this. [ you can have too much Hp when you’re a squid ].

We have time to think about this again because we have also found out a High Volume Oil pump, while great at the drag strip is not so good when you suck all the oil out of your pan, we have a lot of time on our hands while I rebuild the motor [ main bearing].

So the two questions I need expert opinions on... or at least you all’s?

#1 Could the welding of the Roll Cage have caused the frame to “ relax” back to it’s “bent position” ?

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#2 How big a deal is this??? Should I cut it all loose, and straighten, and re-weld??

I think so, but three out of four folks involved think not.

It is a visual thing..” “ Body panels not perfect..” ... “ It’s a 27 year old car!” .... “All Corvettes vary, it’s not a Porsche, you know”


But then none of us really know what we are doing....

Planning on #2 unless I am worried for nothing. Anyone know anyone honest in the area of Road Atlanta that does frame work and will work with us on the problem?

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Old 04-08-2012, 12:45 PM
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When good race shops weld in a cage the frame is secured to a huge perfectly flat plate to take out any twists that are usually present in most cars even if new.
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When good race shops weld in a cage the frame is secured to a huge perfectly flat plate to take out any twists that are usually present in most cars even if new.

Good information. Unfortunately for me, possibly a year late, and no he did not?

Not sure what Drag race guys do, but no plate or jig in sight.

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Old 04-08-2012, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TJM
Good information. Unfortunately for me, possibly a year late, and no he did not?

Not sure what Drag race guys do, but no plate or jig in sight.

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doubt it matters to drag race guys for the most part.

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