Switchable Engine Oil Cooler?
#1
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Switchable Engine Oil Cooler?
Anyone ever heard of a switchable EOC?
It would either be controlled by a manual switch mounted in the cabin, or, ideally, it would tap into the existing oil temperature sensor and automatically engage when the oil temp hits 225-230 and automatically disengage when it hits 210-215.
I want to run cooler at the track, but not at the expense of running too cool on the street. I just want the oil to operate within a narrow temperature range, like the coolant does.
The idea is very simple in concept - has anyone ever heard of it actually being done? Are there any hurdles to overcome in order to turn this idea into a real system?
Thanks.
It would either be controlled by a manual switch mounted in the cabin, or, ideally, it would tap into the existing oil temperature sensor and automatically engage when the oil temp hits 225-230 and automatically disengage when it hits 210-215.
I want to run cooler at the track, but not at the expense of running too cool on the street. I just want the oil to operate within a narrow temperature range, like the coolant does.
The idea is very simple in concept - has anyone ever heard of it actually being done? Are there any hurdles to overcome in order to turn this idea into a real system?
Thanks.
#2
Drifting
They make mechanical thermostat control valves, I think I even have one in the garage that came with a oil cooler I was going install on a previous car (ended up using it to fix my GF's transmission cooler that was integrated into the AC condenser...).
Here's on example:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRM-1070/
I wouldn't over-complicate it with a lot of electronics. Do a search for oil thermostat and you will find several options.
Here's on example:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRM-1070/
I wouldn't over-complicate it with a lot of electronics. Do a search for oil thermostat and you will find several options.
#3
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
OK, right. So the engine cooling system would work exactly the same way that the water cooling system currently does. That sounds pretty good; I do like the idea of eliminating electronics when possible.
Any other feedback?
Any other feedback?
#4
Safety Car
I bought a Ron Davis 4-core radiator for mine, and got a unit designed for an automatic vehicle.
I put a Canton sandwich adapter between the filter & block and plumbed it in.
My oil temps stay pretty much around 180 under normal conditions and -15 to -20 degrees of coolant temps when at the track.
Seems like you are trying to over-complicate it with a thermostatic valve, etc. Apply the K.I.S.S. principle to it (Keep It Simple Stupid)...
My $.02
I put a Canton sandwich adapter between the filter & block and plumbed it in.
My oil temps stay pretty much around 180 under normal conditions and -15 to -20 degrees of coolant temps when at the track.
Seems like you are trying to over-complicate it with a thermostatic valve, etc. Apply the K.I.S.S. principle to it (Keep It Simple Stupid)...
My $.02
#5
Drifting
#6
Burning Brakes
These are the parts I put into my 2006 C6 for combined street and track use:
http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=400
http://www.partstaxi.com/parts/2006/...agramCallOut=1
http://www.partstaxi.com/parts/2006/...icleid=1432065
#7
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Thanks all for the suggestions. I like this remote oil thermostat:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTR-22-480/
It doesn't switch until 215 deg F, which will allow the oil to reach full operating temp when I'm just puttering around town.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTR-22-480/
It doesn't switch until 215 deg F, which will allow the oil to reach full operating temp when I'm just puttering around town.
#8
Race Director
Instead of oil to air cooler with a thermostat you can use an oil to water cooler.
These are the parts I put into my 2006 C6 for combined street and track use:
http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=400
http://www.partstaxi.com/parts/2006/...agramCallOut=1
http://www.partstaxi.com/parts/2006/...icleid=1432065
These are the parts I put into my 2006 C6 for combined street and track use:
http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=400
http://www.partstaxi.com/parts/2006/...agramCallOut=1
http://www.partstaxi.com/parts/2006/...icleid=1432065
#9
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Thanks again everyone for the replies. I'll probably go with that Canton 215 tstat and the DeWitts radiator with integrated EOC.
One final question: Should the stock oil pump be ported or upgraded to effectively move oil through an aftermarket cooler, or is the stock pressure sufficient? Or, I guess another way of asking the question is - Will there be a decrease in oil pressure after installing a EOC?
Thanks in advance.
One final question: Should the stock oil pump be ported or upgraded to effectively move oil through an aftermarket cooler, or is the stock pressure sufficient? Or, I guess another way of asking the question is - Will there be a decrease in oil pressure after installing a EOC?
Thanks in advance.
#10
Drifting
Thanks again everyone for the replies. I'll probably go with that Canton 215 tstat and the DeWitts radiator with integrated EOC.
One final question: Should the stock oil pump be ported or upgraded to effectively move oil through an aftermarket cooler, or is the stock pressure sufficient? Or, I guess another way of asking the question is - Will there be a decrease in oil pressure after installing a EOC?
Thanks in advance.
One final question: Should the stock oil pump be ported or upgraded to effectively move oil through an aftermarket cooler, or is the stock pressure sufficient? Or, I guess another way of asking the question is - Will there be a decrease in oil pressure after installing a EOC?
Thanks in advance.
For my 02 C5Z I went with the DRM Track Kit (Setrab 40 row cooler). For the street I just wrap the front of the cooler in aluminum foil and that get me 185 degree + temps, while on track i remove the foil and have not seen above 245 during 100 degree temps.
Not too sophisticated but effective.
Ed
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Summit used to have a B&M Thermostatic Bypass Valve that sold for less than $100. I used it with the Engine Oil Cooler that I had on my C5Z. It would run 15 % of the oil through the cooler until the oil temp hit 180 degrees and then it would switch to run 85% of the oil through the cooler. This permitted oil flow through both circuits all the time and eliminated the chance of getting an air bubble in the line that a regular thermostat would close off. The part looked like a big H. Plumbing it in did cause a plumbing nightmare to get the thing mounted so it worked properly in conjunction with a remote oil filter. Without the remote filter it would have been a piece of cake.
Bill
Bill
#12
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Hey Mike,
For my 02 C5Z I went with the DRM Track Kit (Setrab 40 row cooler). For the street I just wrap the front of the cooler in aluminum foil and that get me 185 degree + temps, while on track i remove the foil and have not seen above 245 during 100 degree temps.
Not too sophisticated but effective.
Ed
For my 02 C5Z I went with the DRM Track Kit (Setrab 40 row cooler). For the street I just wrap the front of the cooler in aluminum foil and that get me 185 degree + temps, while on track i remove the foil and have not seen above 245 during 100 degree temps.
Not too sophisticated but effective.
Ed