How often and to what level do tracks maintain their surfaces? PICS
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Le Mans Master
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How often and to what level do tracks maintain their surfaces? PICS
I posted a few of these pics in the Katech Track Attack thread (C6 Z06 section) and decided to share more here for the true track rats.
Autobahn (Joliet, IL) just completed a surface maintenance update on the South circuit. Updated curbing has also taken place on the full track.
We ground down the surface roughly 1/2 inch, then applied 1.5 inches of new asphalt on top. This is the first step of many planned over the next several years to ensure we have prime conditions.
We are currently running on North track to allow maximum curing time.
The segments pictured here are between turns S5-S8.
If I don't pick up a few tenths in this new section I'm blaming it on the surface, it's never the driver right?
Note:
Anyone looking for track time, the Katech Track Attack event is in 4 weeks, July 30, 31. The event is perfect for all levels of skill, with 5 separate 30 minute sessions for each group. Throw in the VIP list and catered meals and it becomes a destination. There are still limited spots open.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...al-thread.html
See you soon,
Mike
Autobahn (Joliet, IL) just completed a surface maintenance update on the South circuit. Updated curbing has also taken place on the full track.
We ground down the surface roughly 1/2 inch, then applied 1.5 inches of new asphalt on top. This is the first step of many planned over the next several years to ensure we have prime conditions.
We are currently running on North track to allow maximum curing time.
The segments pictured here are between turns S5-S8.
If I don't pick up a few tenths in this new section I'm blaming it on the surface, it's never the driver right?
Note:
Anyone looking for track time, the Katech Track Attack event is in 4 weeks, July 30, 31. The event is perfect for all levels of skill, with 5 separate 30 minute sessions for each group. Throw in the VIP list and catered meals and it becomes a destination. There are still limited spots open.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...al-thread.html
See you soon,
Mike
Last edited by Short-Throw; 06-29-2012 at 11:24 AM.
#2
Team Owner
Wow. That's quite the undertaking. It sure looks like Autobahn does things first rate and that's awesome for the members. Thanks for sharing Mike. I'll step back now and let those more knowledgeable contribute on how other tracks do things.
#5
Burning Brakes
They repaired turn 7 at blackhawk last winter , It already came apart
Autobahn T5 & T8 were always a washboard . try flicking a bike over at 100+ (T5) with the front wheel chattering
Autobahn T5 & T8 were always a washboard . try flicking a bike over at 100+ (T5) with the front wheel chattering
#6
Race Director
Wow - Autobahn will be great with the new surface!!!
Pretty much the same equipment and procedure at Daytona - they just have to hold it up on the 31 degree banking with big, heavy bulldozers.
BTW - The track was built and initially paved in 1959. They added a second layer of asphalt in 1978. They were going to repave it this year, but after the problems in the 500 in 2010 they ripped it up and did the project right after the 400 starting in early July 2010. No HPDE's were allowed to run that fall because they were letting the new surface cure.
Estimates are that 50,000 tons of asphalt was used to cover the 1.4 million square feet of surface, which includes the 2.5-mile tri-oval, the apron and runoff areas. Instead of replacing the asphalt in the pit boxes, Daytona is moving to concrete, which is found at most NASCAR tracks.
The infield, which contains the Rolex 24 road course, was repaved several years ago.
Bob
Pretty much the same equipment and procedure at Daytona - they just have to hold it up on the 31 degree banking with big, heavy bulldozers.
BTW - The track was built and initially paved in 1959. They added a second layer of asphalt in 1978. They were going to repave it this year, but after the problems in the 500 in 2010 they ripped it up and did the project right after the 400 starting in early July 2010. No HPDE's were allowed to run that fall because they were letting the new surface cure.
Estimates are that 50,000 tons of asphalt was used to cover the 1.4 million square feet of surface, which includes the 2.5-mile tri-oval, the apron and runoff areas. Instead of replacing the asphalt in the pit boxes, Daytona is moving to concrete, which is found at most NASCAR tracks.
The infield, which contains the Rolex 24 road course, was repaved several years ago.
Bob
Last edited by BEZ06; 06-28-2012 at 07:16 PM. Reason: Added BTW
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ISC [put some money into Watkins Glen again this year. They painted the curbing, extended the curbing and run off pavement at the exit of 1 all the way to the entrance to 2 so they don't have another big accident like they had last year. They also reduced the height of the curbing going into the bus stop but left the curbing at the exit the same height. You can literally put the whole car on the curbing going into the bus stop without knocking your fillings out now. The cup cars would ride at the top of the old curbing and brake hard to about half way through the bus stop before the changes. Wonder what the changes will do to lap times as they should be able carry more speed into the turn and still brake better now.
Bill
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Le Mans Master
Asphalt? That is for getting there!
Dirt? That is for planting potatoes!
Now grass, that is for racing! Right Mike?
Great improvement. It should only add about 8-10 seconds to my lap times!
Jim
Dirt? That is for planting potatoes!
Now grass, that is for racing! Right Mike?
Great improvement. It should only add about 8-10 seconds to my lap times!
Jim
#13
Drifting
I was there Memorial Day weekend and was like someone dumped gravel in the apex. T1 & T7 were both shedding little ***** of black pea gravel. I don't think I will be back until they fix it. Usually this means the asphalt sat too long in the truck and was cooling off.
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I was there Memorial Day weekend and was like someone dumped gravel in the apex. T1 & T7 were both shedding little ***** of black pea gravel. I don't think I will be back until they fix it. Usually this means the asphalt sat too long in the truck and was cooling off.
At the end of the season they fixed the track surface at corner 7.
This has since not held up as expected.
Track management met with the engineers today to find a permanent solution but in the mean time I have been given a guarantee that they are putting in a temporary fix that will make the track in good condition for the event on July 7 & 8.
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But that didn't last long. SP was cheap and now it's cost them a ton with all the patches.
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SP will keep that surface for 20+ years and will put down concrete again before repaving. They don't cater to us track rats, as we don't pay their bills. The Secret Service and others dont care what shape the track surface is in.
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Harris Hill Road Course south of Austin
H2R is going to be closed the next couple of weeks in order to completely fix turns 2, 9 and 11, good news for anyone who's ever driven the t t t ttrack as it can be b b b bumpy..!
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I was looking to run an SCCA race up there in two weeks. Here's the latest email I received from the Chief Registrar at SCCA conveying what BHF stated:
At the end of the season they fixed the track surface at corner 7.
This has since not held up as expected.
Track management met with the engineers today to find a permanent solution but in the mean time I have been given a guarantee that they are putting in a temporary fix that will make the track in good condition for the event on July 7 & 8.
At the end of the season they fixed the track surface at corner 7.
This has since not held up as expected.
Track management met with the engineers today to find a permanent solution but in the mean time I have been given a guarantee that they are putting in a temporary fix that will make the track in good condition for the event on July 7 & 8.
Apex at 7
Last edited by KBow_Photo; 07-02-2012 at 10:15 PM.