mountainbiker2

I was at an Autocross and the owner of Cambertire was there with one of his tires showing them off. What do you guys think?
http://www.cambertire.com/indexretail.html

Steve A.

froggy47

How did he do?

brkntrxn

LOL, I agree. Proof is in the time sheets.

95jersey

I could see that being of value to cars that don't have significan camber adjustments (not Corvette's). Cars with struts where no camber plates are available. Otherwise you would just allign a vette with the appropriate amount of camber or just install a camber plate on a strut vehicle to get your desired effect..

froggy47

mountainbiker2

The owner had just a tire with him. If he can make our sizes, I might try them. I would thinking braking would be great. Plus they might last longer. I think he said 8/32" rubber. He has slicks with just a spiral groove. DOT legal.

Steve A.

Kubs

The diagram on his website makes no sense. According to the picture, installing the tire also puts the rim at an angle by bending the hub?!?!?

I fixed the photo in photoshop.

This is what he says the tire does:


This is what it will do in real life:


Only the outside edge of the tire will touch the ground. In order for the hub to move and gain actual camber, the control arms have to move. I would like if this was such a good idea companies like Goodyear, Michelin, or Hoosier would have come out with it already.

mountainbiker2

The sidewalls are two different sizes. Larger on the outside, smaller on the inside.

Kubs

Right. This makes the inside of the tire come off the ground... The rest of the suspension wont conform to the tire, the tire is just not shaped right. Think about it.

RX7 KLR

Over two years later he is still trying to find a manufacturer to license his design. Search around the web and you will find all kinds of entertaining discussions about this tire.

A car showed up at the Solo Natls on it a few years back, ran STU and got crushed.

RX7 KLR

You should get a set... The PCA guys need a break from you beating them.

Kubs

Watch this video (also from the website):

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/...tires/1236995/

He mentions about halfway through that they still setup the car to -2.9 to -3.0 degrees camber, and the only change is setting the toe to zero (about the 5:10 mark). Then towards the end when they take the car on the road (about the 8:25 mark) look how much static camber there is in the wheel! This tire is doing nothing.

Bad Karma

The only use I see to this design would be for those guys slamming their cars down into the weeds and putting in so much negative camber for fender clearance that this improves tire wear. I can't personally see a performance improvement with just the tire; I would need to be convinced with some data and time sheets.

6SPEEDZ

Only the outside edge of the tire will touch the ground. In order for the hub to move and gain actual camber, the control arms have to move. I would like if this was such a good idea companies like Goodyear, Michelin, or Hoosier would have come out with it already.[/QUOTE]

Goodyear had cambered tires back in the C5R days. Of course they went to Michelin's later.