waddisme

This has gone past just repl a broken valve spring. Finally got my spings, seals and locators to replace in motor. After removing the broken spring, I found the steel locator and the steel shim beneath it are gone, except for a couple of small pieces. There is none of the pieces in the top of the head anywhere. It was an intake valve spring that broke. Do I just change the oil and hope the filter and screen caught it all? How far down do I tear motor apart? Is it time to haul off to shop to finish?

RX-Ben

Guys that lose their needle bearing in the rockers seem to keep on going, given that they cannot fit through the pickup screen. You are in the same boat. I think it is either too late (damage done) or you are going to be fine.

geerookie

if it made it to the bottom of the motor you will have to pull the pan to find the parts.

Scooter70

x2 on pulling the pan.

DOUG @ ECS

X3 on pulling the pan.

waddisme

Can that be done without a lift? I am thinking not.

PushinTheLimit

Just my opinion here... but if you want to keep doing track days, I would get rid of that built motor and find me a GM crate motor, drop it in and go have fun. More reliable and alot less money. All the money spent on a built motor will buy a few track days worth of fun.

sperkins

You can drop the lower pan, but not the upper one without dropping the cradle.

waddisme

Not sure where you are coming from there. Motor has over 40 track days and 35k mi. Valve spring issue is more a result of my ignorance than motor build. Motor was built with doing track days in mind, just made a bad choice with cam. Just should have been doing springs on annual basis.

I will do that first and see how much of the parts I can piece back together from pan and oil filter. Thanks.

kmagvette

Yep...easy but a whole bunch of parts come off the car including dropping the cradle. What I did was to remove the windshield washer reservoir (assuming you have all the accessories off the front of the motor) there is a channel where a chunk of black pipe will fit into nicely across the frame, side to side. Screw two of the larger bolts into the lower face of the engine with the bolts each going through a length of chain. Loop the chain over the black pipe and remove the slack from the chain so that the engine is essentially hanging from the black pipe.

Many ways to remove the slack from the chain. I took the primitive route using a long bolt, with washers and a nut, going through the chain. Keep tightening the nut until the chain gets tight.

Now remove the front cradle and all the other stuff so you can drop the pan.

Since you are this deep into the crap, might as well change all those other thing you want to...like the timing chain, cam , etc.

bags142

Dang, sorry about the bad luck!!

Hope the best for the car and wallet!!

sperkins

The problem is that whatever you need to dig out may not have fallen down into the wing section of the pan. For the most part, there's only a small hole for the pickup tube that goes into the lower pan. I'm not sure how you can flush out something that may be sitting on the upper part of the pan.