Brake Pad Material Question for WA peeps
12-08-2012, 10:35 AM
#1
Team Owner
Thread Starter
Brake Pad Material Question for WA peeps
Back in 2010, Washington State banned the use of copper in all brake pads sold to consumers. Starting January 1st, manufacturers have to report the concentrations of heavy metals in their brake friction materials.
Linky to a Seattle TV website story. The article goes on to say that Oregon will probably follow with their version, it's already in Kalifornia, and the chances are that the WA could become a model for nationwide laws.
So the question is, how will this affect performance pads (both street and off-road) in terms of how they will work? Will new compounds that meet the WA requirements be just as good as brake pads we have been using?
The article infers that this law is more about saving fish that getting cars to stop (maybe a PR&C subject, but I really don't think that the health of fish is really the motivation here) or for that matter reduce the life of a set of brake pads/shoes so that manufacturers sell more product or shops do more work.
Linky to a Seattle TV website story. The article goes on to say that Oregon will probably follow with their version, it's already in Kalifornia, and the chances are that the WA could become a model for nationwide laws.
So the question is, how will this affect performance pads (both street and off-road) in terms of how they will work? Will new compounds that meet the WA requirements be just as good as brake pads we have been using?
The article infers that this law is more about saving fish that getting cars to stop (maybe a PR&C subject, but I really don't think that the health of fish is really the motivation here) or for that matter reduce the life of a set of brake pads/shoes so that manufacturers sell more product or shops do more work.
12-08-2012, 01:06 PM
#2
Drifting
Like the idiots we have in Congress, enforceability is impossible except for in state retailers. I used to work in government and we had a real conflict on DUI's. The laws require a lot of time and effort to prosecute, and the prosecutor would later negotiate a plea bargain to a much lessor charge, so the officers would not go through the dui process and cite for reckless driving or something similar. Most of us buy pads on line and so I dont see any reason to change pad compound
12-08-2012, 02:05 PM
#3
Race Director
Eventually, for the bigger manufacturers, you will see *Not for sale in Kalifornia and you will not (easily) be able to buy what you want & get it shipped to a CA address.
Such is the case now with performance parts, guns, solvents, etc.
Such is the case now with performance parts, guns, solvents, etc.
12-11-2012, 05:52 AM
#4
Back in 2010, Washington State banned the use of copper in all brake pads sold to consumers. Starting January 1st, manufacturers have to report the concentrations of heavy metals in their brake friction materials.
Linky to a Seattle TV website story. The article goes on to say that Oregon will probably follow with their version, it's already in Kalifornia, and the chances are that the WA could become a model for nationwide laws.
So the question is, how will this affect performance pads (both street and off-road) in terms of how they will work? Will new compounds that meet the WA requirements be just as good as brake pads we have been using?
The article infers that this law is more about saving fish that getting cars to stop (maybe a PR&C subject, but I really don't think that the health of fish is really the motivation here) or for that matter reduce the life of a set of brake pads/shoes so that manufacturers sell more product or shops do more work.
Linky to a Seattle TV website story. The article goes on to say that Oregon will probably follow with their version, it's already in Kalifornia, and the chances are that the WA could become a model for nationwide laws.
So the question is, how will this affect performance pads (both street and off-road) in terms of how they will work? Will new compounds that meet the WA requirements be just as good as brake pads we have been using?
The article infers that this law is more about saving fish that getting cars to stop (maybe a PR&C subject, but I really don't think that the health of fish is really the motivation here) or for that matter reduce the life of a set of brake pads/shoes so that manufacturers sell more product or shops do more work.
Its a very interesting question. Remove the metal from one part of the design (where friction material has metal and the rotor is metal) and what do we get? Crappy braking
It would be interesting if the manufacturers develop new materials for the pads AND rotors and as a side affect, one brake pad and rotor combo could work for all situations (cold, street and track).
But, if they did that there would be less product to sell. So they will probably come up with a solution that is more costly, more profitable and something that isn't fully implemented in the first release but works so-so. In doing that, they set themselves up so people want to upgrade and buy v2, which is also holding back to line up for upgrades to v3
