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Old 07-24-2013, 03:34 PM
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I finally had time to start tearing down the Corvette last weekend. I'm definitely going to need some new aft frame rails and a new rear tub. It looks like the frame is fine forward of the sub-frame, but who knows once it is removed. I fear the frame by "boing" or spring once the sub frame is unbolted.

My next step is to take it to a frame and body shop. I've been recommend First Class Autobody by most of the Vette mafia. Anyone else have any other suggestions in Socal? Keep in mind, I don't need this repaired to Concours d'Elegance or NCCC Bloomington standards. I just need it track ready.










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Oh Man! I feel your pain! It really sucks repairing a wrecked car! Hopefully, you weren't hurt.

It appears as though someone didn't get whooaaed up behind you.
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Oh Man! I feel your pain! It really sucks repairing a wrecked car! Hopefully, you weren't hurt.

It appears as though someone didn't get whooaaed up behind you.
I had a good headache afterwards.

Here's the video. I exited track left after an off and on after T4 at Laguna. The video cutoff right before impact unfortunately.

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Here's some thoughts:
The frame rearward of the rear most crossmember attachment is not important in terms of alignment, etc. It is important however for it to absorb incidents like you experienced. You can make sure it is straight from there foreward and cut off the rear part. Replace with common tubing, etc. by a good fabricator. Just make sure it is not too strong so that if something like this occurs again it will sacrifice itself, like the existing one did. There is opportunity there to remove some weight if you desire to do so. Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to build wing mounts further forward so they don't get damaged in minor rear bumps that would only damage the rear bumper beam. Heck, you could even build the rear section to be bolt on so it is easier to replace. Aluminum is another possibility.
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And this is why I'm campaigning a mullet-mobile disposable CMC car next year.
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Originally Posted by jimtway
I had a good headache afterwards.

Here's the video. I exited track left after an off and on after T4 at Laguna. The video cutoff right before impact unfortunately.
Sorry to hear about this Jim. Glad to hear that you are unhurt.
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Glad you weren't hurt! Hope you get it all worked out soon. I have enjoyed watching your videos. Let us know how it goes and who you use for the fab work. I will be looking for a cage soon as I just moved to LA.
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That sucks big time, lots of carnage at Mid Ohio Yesterday only one of 7 cars got out un scaved
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Originally Posted by L98Terror
That sucks big time, lots of carnage at Mid Ohio Yesterday only one of 7 cars got out un scaved
Did it rain yesterday? From the looks of Saturday's times it appears as though it must have poured then.
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If your interested, I have a rear frame section I cut off to back half a drag car that might be helpful to you. PM me if your interested and I'll send you some pics of what I have.

good luck with the rebuild, it's all just nuts n bolts..
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Originally Posted by Falcon
Did it rain yesterday? From the looks of Saturday's times it appears as though it must have poured then.

No just Sat
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Originally Posted by trackboss
Here's some thoughts:
The frame rearward of the rear most crossmember attachment is not important in terms of alignment, etc. It is important however for it to absorb incidents like you experienced. You can make sure it is straight from there foreward and cut off the rear part. Replace with common tubing, etc. by a good fabricator. Just make sure it is not too strong so that if something like this occurs again it will sacrifice itself, like the existing one did. There is opportunity there to remove some weight if you desire to do so. Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to build wing mounts further forward so they don't get damaged in minor rear bumps that would only damage the rear bumper beam. Heck, you could even build the rear section to be bolt on so it is easier to replace. Aluminum is another possibility.
Thanks, I was thinking and hoping the same. It's going on a frame machine next week to get measured and inspected.

I'm also pondering bolting on the rear tub as well. If I do my own structure, crash impact absorption will be key to sizing. Luckily I have some experience with my job and schooling in that subject.
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Originally Posted by Charley Hoyt
Sorry to hear about this Jim. Glad to hear that you are unhurt.
Thanks Charley, my wife is most glad about that too. "Go for zero!"

Hey, unrelated, you guys need any overtime work right now?!? My nights and weekends just opened up, and I might need the hours!
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Originally Posted by apexman
Glad you weren't hurt! Hope you get it all worked out soon. I have enjoyed watching your videos. Let us know how it goes and who you use for the fab work. I will be looking for a cage soon as I just moved to LA.
I don't know anyone in Orange County, but a lot of good work is being done by Blackbird Fabworx in San Fernando, and TC Design in norcal
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if it were me, besides what I mentioned above, I would replace the entire rear tub with aluminum panels and make them easily removable for access to driveline, etc.
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Originally Posted by trackboss
if it were me, besides what I mentioned above, I would replace the entire rear tub with aluminum panels and make them easily removable for access to driveline, etc.
NASA cars have to be real careful and not modify the frame rails.

The tub, I don't know about. I haven't broken that, yet!
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Originally Posted by Falcon
NASA cars have to be real careful and not modify the frame rails.

The tub, I don't know about. I haven't broken that, yet!
pfadt did it, and I know other people have as well.....

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Originally Posted by spazegun2213
pfadt did it, and I know other people have as well.....
The frame rails or the tub?
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Technically you can't remove the entire tub. You can only remove the spare tire tub i.e. the center well and then cover it. Removing more costs you mod factor.

"6b) Removal of the spare tire floor section of the rear hatch space and either
replacement with a sheet metal cover or placement of a fuel cell is permitted without
an additional Modification Factor"
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Originally Posted by Falcon
The frame rails or the tub?
Originally Posted by travisnd
Technically you can't remove the entire tub. You can only remove the spare tire tub i.e. the center well and then cover it. Removing more costs you mod factor.

"6b) Removal of the spare tire floor section of the rear hatch space and either
replacement with a sheet metal cover or placement of a fuel cell is permitted without
an additional Modification Factor"
Just the tub....


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