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Old 09-04-2013, 09:01 PM
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Can someone tell me what is needed to do a dry sump conversion on a 2005 C6 with an LS2?
I am thinking about doing this on my car but I need to retain air conditioning, so a full on race car setup is not going to work.
I'm thinking of LS7 parts for most of it:
Oil pan
Oil tank and lines
Oil pump
Timing cover

I was told I need a long nose crankshaft to drive the pump as well, along with the matching crank damper and key.

Can I use all factory parts for this or do I need some aftermarket parts? What are recommended parts for this conversion?

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Check out AVIAID or ARE dry sump systems, both are excellent and have what you are looking for.
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http://www.xplosiveperformance.com/D...-A_p_3090.html

This kit retains AC

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Installing one of those ^^^ today coincidentally, they work very well.
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Thanks guys.

Does the Aviaid LS-A system require you to change the crankshaft, like you would if you were doing the factory Z06/GS setup?

What's the approx. labor cost on a job like that, Doug? I'm somewhat local to you guys, being in the Philly area. I'm not sure if that's a project I can DIY.
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Are you bent on keeping the LS2 motor? I did a dry sump LS3 conversion in my old 2005 Z51. Direct motor swap with a couple custom wiring harnesses and relocating the battery to the trunk. Kept the car as a street car but felt much more comfortable (in terms of motor not having oiling problems) on the track with Hoosiers...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...-sump-diy.html
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Thanks, but I don't have any plans on changing the engine. I thought the LS3 has more oiling problems than the LS2, but I guess I'm wrong. I'm not trying to turn this into a big $$$$ project right now.
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The cost of going true dry sump or converting a 2005 into a GM dry sump may come close to buying a slightly used LS3 dry sump and selling what you have now.

I was just offering a potential solution that you may not have thought about yet. I spent $6700 on a dry sump LS3, throttle body to flywheel. You can probably sell a used LS2 for $3000-4000.
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Thanks, I appreciate the suggestion.

I looked into doing the factory conversion- it's about $3200 give or take, depending on what parts I may have missed along the way. That would give me exactly what a Grand Sport has for dry sump. I think the Aviaid or ARE solutions are a fair bit cheaper- that Aviaid LS-A setup is something like $1800. If that's all that is needed, I wouldn't get a factory setup at all.

I don't care about originality or anything, just wanted to make sure that I can keep the A/C so it's a proper dual-purpose car, as I have no intention of converting it into a race car.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Installing one of those ^^^ today coincidentally, they work very well.
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I spoke with someone today that said the factory LS7 uses external pump for scavenging purposes only and a conventional oil (pump behind timing cover) to oil the engine. Can someone tell me if this is correct?
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Originally Posted by NemesisC5
I spoke with someone today that said the factory LS7 uses external pump for scavenging purposes only and a conventional oil (pump behind timing cover) to oil the engine. Can someone tell me if this is correct?

That is correct, the benefit is from the better supply of oil to the pump.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
That is correct, the benefit is from the better supply of oil to the pump.
Thanks Doug, does installing this setup on LS1 also require or benefit with an aftermarket/updated oil pump?
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Originally Posted by NemesisC5
Thanks Doug, does installing this setup on LS1 also require or benefit with an aftermarket/updated oil pump?

It's not required, but it may be a benefit.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
It's not required, but it may be a benefit.
Thanks Doug
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
That is correct, the benefit is from the better supply of oil to the pump.
What is the approx. cost of installation for a wet sump motor like the LS2? We're talking about the Aviaid system, right?
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I spoke with someone today that said the factory LS7 uses external pump for scavenging purposes only and a conventional oil (pump behind timing cover) to oil the engine. Can someone tell me if this is correct?


That is correct, the benefit is from the better supply of oil to the pump.
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No, that is not correct. The factory LS7/9/, LS3 man trans, has two pumps, a scavenge and pressure, mounted behind the timing cover driven by the crank.

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