Interested in Data Acquisition
10-20-2013, 10:42 PM
#1
Team Owner
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Interested in Data Acquisition
So I finally may be ready to ready to update my simple GoPro video with data overlay.
I would like to know which systems will work with GoPro and MacOS
DH
I would like to know which systems will work with GoPro and MacOS
DH
10-20-2013, 11:04 PM
#2
Burning Brakes
The AIM Solo DL works really well in the car. It is plug N play with your OBDII.
The AIM software needs to run on Windows, so you will need a bridge like Parallel which will allow you to run Windows. It runs pretty well with no real issues.
The AIM solo is really great and easy to use.
10-20-2013, 11:20 PM
#3
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DH,
The AIM Solo DL works really well in the car. It is plug N play with your OBDII.
The AIM software needs to run on Windows, so you will need a bridge like Parallel which will allow you to run Windows. It runs pretty well with no real issues.
The AIM solo is really great and easy to use.
The AIM Solo DL works really well in the car. It is plug N play with your OBDII.
The AIM software needs to run on Windows, so you will need a bridge like Parallel which will allow you to run Windows. It runs pretty well with no real issues.
The AIM solo is really great and easy to use.
I'm hoping for something simple that does not require a bunch of time rendering software to data.
That appears to mean you need Harry's Laptimer or Trackmate? Problem is I don't have a smart phone
I wonder if you can buy an old iphone for this without actually signing up with a carrier for phone service ???DH
10-20-2013, 11:29 PM
#4
I think DH means he is trying to get data embeded on his video. if so you need something like smartycam HD as a stand alone or use go pro, mac, and something like harry's laptimer, or aim solo or soloDL then a program that can talk to it all and integrate. Check with one of the CC guys charlie Hoyt. He does it or knows a good program to use. He walked me through it once but I never did it.
If you want 1 step bonding agent check out smarty cam HD
If you want 1 step bonding agent check out smarty cam HD
10-20-2013, 11:36 PM
#5
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I think DH means he is trying to get data embeded on his video. if so you need something like smartycam HD as a stand alone or use go pro, mac, and something like harry's laptimer, or aim solo or soloDL then a program that can talk to it all and integrate. Check with one of the CC guys charlie Hoyt. He does it or knows a good program to use. He walked me through it once but I never did it.
If you want 1 step bonding agent check out smarty cam HD
If you want 1 step bonding agent check out smarty cam HD
I will look at smarty cam
I will check with Charlie, he was at WSIR with me last week
DH
10-20-2013, 11:44 PM
#6
Burning Brakes
Yes, the AIM Solo DL is made by the same people that make the Smarty Cam. If you want to use your GO Pro than you will need to use something like a AIM solo DL which needs to use program like Dashware or Race Render to do the overlay. But, if you step up to a Smarty Cam, to my knowledge the Smarty Cam will do the overlay automatically. The new Smarty Cam HD is brand new and not too many people have used it yet, and it is priced at over $1,000. It does look like a pretty slick unit but I have yet to see the quality of the video or sound quality to make a decision on it.
10-20-2013, 11:50 PM
#7
Melting Slicks
I want the smarty cam hd. Plug and play and the data is automatically overlaid on the video. Even you can't screw it up Howie 
. I've very happy with my aim solo and the race studio analysis software.
. I've very happy with my aim solo and the race studio analysis software.
10-21-2013, 12:17 AM
#8
Team Owner
Thread Starter
Yes, the AIM Solo DL is made by the same people that make the Smarty Cam. If you want to use your GO Pro than you will need to use something like a AIM solo DL which needs to use program like Dashware or Race Render to do the overlay. But, if you step up to a Smarty Cam, to my knowledge the Smarty Cam will do the overlay automatically. The new Smarty Cam HD is brand new and not too many people have used it yet, and it is priced at over $1,000. It does look like a pretty slick unit but I have yet to see the quality of the video or sound quality to make a decision on it.
DH
10-21-2013, 12:21 AM
#9
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Thread Starter
I appreciate your confidence in me
Its not that I'm not computer savey ........ I just don't want to spend a bunch of time rendering/splicing and what not.Anyways, I'm not shelling out $1000 for data over lay, although this SmartySonofaBitch sounds like the ticket.
DH
10-21-2013, 12:26 AM
#10
I just finally got all this sorted out myself. It's a lot easier and cheaper than I thought:
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
- GoPro for video
- ELM327 Wifi OBD2 adapter from Amazon (it has an orange and blue design) $25. This works on IPHONE. Only the WIFI version works on iPhone!
- TrackAddict for your iPhone to log data $7
- RaceRender for your computer to merge the data and video $25
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
10-21-2013, 01:13 AM
#11
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I just finally got all this sorted out myself. It's a lot easier and cheaper than I thought:
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
- GoPro for video
- ELM327 Wifi OBD2 adapter from Amazon (it has an orange and blue design) $25. This works on IPHONE. Only the WIFI version works on iPhone!
- TrackAddict for your iPhone to log data $7
- RaceRender for your computer to merge the data and video $25
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
Two questions
1. Does RaceRender work on MacOS
2. Does the iphone need to be hooked up to a service provider
DH
10-21-2013, 01:34 AM
#12
The iPhone does not need to be connected to a service provider. It only needs the capability of running the TrackAddict app (does not require internet after the initial install) and being able to connect to the OBD2 device via Wifi. In fact, it's probably better that the phone not have any service connectivity so your recording will not be interrupted by a phone call.
10-21-2013, 10:22 AM
#13
Melting Slicks
I just finally got all this sorted out myself. It's a lot easier and cheaper than I thought:
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
- GoPro for video
- ELM327 Wifi OBD2 adapter from Amazon (it has an orange and blue design) $25. This works on IPHONE. Only the WIFI version works on iPhone!
- TrackAddict for your iPhone to log data $7
- RaceRender for your computer to merge the data and video $25
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
10-21-2013, 04:32 PM
#14
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Thread Starter
RaceRender is available for Mac OSX.
The iPhone does not need to be connected to a service provider. It only needs the capability of running the TrackAddict app (does not require internet after the initial install) and being able to connect to the OBD2 device via Wifi. In fact, it's probably better that the phone not have any service connectivity so your recording will not be interrupted by a phone call.
The iPhone does not need to be connected to a service provider. It only needs the capability of running the TrackAddict app (does not require internet after the initial install) and being able to connect to the OBD2 device via Wifi. In fact, it's probably better that the phone not have any service connectivity so your recording will not be interrupted by a phone call.
DH
10-21-2013, 04:51 PM
#16
Le Mans Master
I just finally got all this sorted out myself. It's a lot easier and cheaper than I thought:
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
- GoPro for video
- ELM327 Wifi OBD2 adapter from Amazon (it has an orange and blue design) $25. This works on IPHONE. Only the WIFI version works on iPhone!
- TrackAddict for your iPhone to log data $7
- RaceRender for your computer to merge the data and video $25
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
Most phones are 1 - 2 Hz (1000mS - 500mS refresh rate). These are useless for track sessions. Too slow for accuracy at the speed you're traveling. External loggers I have seen are in the 5Hz - 10Hz (200mS - 100mS) range. What h/w did you find to do a 20Hz refresh rate?
10-21-2013, 08:02 PM
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10-21-2013, 08:10 PM
#18
A 20 Hz data logger? Most phones are 1 - 2 Hz (1000mS - 500mS refresh rate). These are useless for track sessions. Too slow for accuracy at the speed you're traveling. External loggers I have seen are in the 5Hz - 10Hz (200mS - 100mS) range. What h/w did you find to do a 20Hz refresh rate?
Most phones are 1 - 2 Hz (1000mS - 500mS refresh rate). These are useless for track sessions. Too slow for accuracy at the speed you're traveling. External loggers I have seen are in the 5Hz - 10Hz (200mS - 100mS) range. What h/w did you find to do a 20Hz refresh rate?I will make a post later with some data log lines and I will give links to the actual product as long as I am not breaking forum rules with the link.
EDIT = the logs have entries every 50ms but it doesnt look like the data values change but every second or so. Dang :-(
Last edited by Achilles97; 10-21-2013 at 09:55 PM.
10-21-2013, 08:49 PM
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Might want to look into this.
http://stoppani.net/products.html
Seems to give you what you want for what you are willing to pay.
I met someone at one of my trackdays that used the basic system on their smartphone. Looked pretty cool.
The real power of these data acquisition systems is to be able to compare laps and a number of different data sets to improve your driving and also car set-up.
http://stoppani.net/products.html
Seems to give you what you want for what you are willing to pay.
I met someone at one of my trackdays that used the basic system on their smartphone. Looked pretty cool.
The real power of these data acquisition systems is to be able to compare laps and a number of different data sets to improve your driving and also car set-up.
10-21-2013, 09:43 PM
#20
I just finally got all this sorted out myself. It's a lot easier and cheaper than I thought:
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
- GoPro for video
- ELM327 Wifi OBD2 adapter from Amazon (it has an orange and blue design) $25. This works on IPHONE. Only the WIFI version works on iPhone!
- TrackAddict for your iPhone to log data $7
- RaceRender for your computer to merge the data and video $25
Done! Works great and it's a lot easier than I thought after I got the hang of it. You can log all types of parameters - RPM, throttle, mph, etc. Data is collected every 50ms, so that's 20 samples per second.
Good luck!
ELM327 OBD2 WIFI device for iPhone:
Look at the customer review by Jeffrey explaining how to connect to iPhone. You only need to do steps 1, 2, and 3. Ignore the rest.
TrackAddict app for iPhone. Connects to the ^ ELM OBD2 device through Wifi:
http://racerender.com/TrackAddict/Features.html
RaceRender for computer to merge video and data:
http://racerender.com/RR2/Features.html
Here's a sample of my data logs:
EDIT = I see that although there are rows every 50ms, the data doesnt change but every second or so. Hmmm. So perhaps I was wrong about the refresh. :-(
I have a small video on my thread here that shows the data overlay using the above setup. Note that the RaceRender logo is not there on the paid version of the software.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...car-video.html
Last edited by Achilles97; 10-21-2013 at 09:50 PM. Reason: typos