C4 front spring, rubber end pads necessary?
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C4 front spring, rubber end pads necessary?
Picked up a used z07 spring and the pads had already been trimmed down by the previous owner. Spring is installed and happy with the height, just under 26" to top of fender on 275/40-17. Is the rubber pad not necessary, or should I be picking up an aftermarket option? Not worried about the ride, it's pretty much a track only car at this point.
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I dont think they are really necessary. Maybe a thin piece of teflon under the end to protect the fiberglass from the control arm would be a good idea.
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There should be somethng roundish and sort of slippery so movement can happen, maybe a big flat washer "thing" made of delrin/nylon/etc.
I would epoxy it to the bottom of the spring.
This can be a source of squeek/creak but you said it's a track car so...
If the spring were to wear a groove or ridge in the arm it could be a sticking point for suspension movement or maybe it would wear a smooth spot, not sure.
I would epoxy it to the bottom of the spring.
This can be a source of squeek/creak but you said it's a track car so...
If the spring were to wear a groove or ridge in the arm it could be a sticking point for suspension movement or maybe it would wear a smooth spot, not sure.
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I was told by Tommy Morrison Racing (a long time ago) that nothing was needed between the composite spring and the A-arm seat, except some synthetic grease.
I've run mine that way since about 2002 on my C4. I do drop the A-arm and clean the spring seat area of any rocks / sand etc..., and regrease with the same syn. grease I use on my poly bushings. Just don't over-do the grease as it attracts dirt. Just a thin film.
I've run mine that way since about 2002 on my C4. I do drop the A-arm and clean the spring seat area of any rocks / sand etc..., and regrease with the same syn. grease I use on my poly bushings. Just don't over-do the grease as it attracts dirt. Just a thin film.
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Thanks! I'll leave it as is for now and keep an eye on it. Happy with the heigth and ready to get back on the rack. Occasional arm drop shouldn't have any effect on my allignment.
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Interesting
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I made mine adjustable also. The difference from Kubs is mine adjusts between the A arm and spring. Mine pushes the spring up off of the A arm. It requires you to drill a hole in the spring, as does Kubs. There is not enough adjustment to justify the effort, but I did it as an experiment. Have no pictures.
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I ordered the VB&P Sport suspension and it came with adjustable pads on the ends of the spring that allow me to adjust ride height and corner weight.
Really happy with the setup though. Only thing i'm going to be doing in the forseeable future is Banski setup in the rear.
Really happy with the setup though. Only thing i'm going to be doing in the forseeable future is Banski setup in the rear.
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The reason we're talking about adjustability is really all about the corner weights. Here's an article I did last year about corner weights.
I'm interested in how close you can get with the adjustable front springs?
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I'm interested in how close you can get with the adjustable front springs?
Richard Newton
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The reason we're talking about adjustability is really all about the corner weights. Here's an article I did last year about corner weights.
I'm interested in how close you can get with the adjustable front springs?
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I'm interested in how close you can get with the adjustable front springs?
Richard Newton
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The reason we're talking about adjustability is really all about the corner weights. Here's an article I did last year about corner weights.
I'm interested in how close you can get with the adjustable front springs?
Richard Newton
I'm interested in how close you can get with the adjustable front springs?
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The VBP spring others have mentioned does come with adjustable ends, but I have no money so I made my own.
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The place that did my corner weighting were able to get within about 30 lbs of the other side. I'm sitting at 51% F and 49% rear as well. But that will change to probably 50/50 once the fuel cell is installed.