Autocrossing & Roadracing Suspension Setup for Track Corvettes, Camber/Caster Adjustments, R-Compound Tires, Race Slicks, Tips on Driving Technique, Events, Results
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Beating the dead horse....anyone make a custom diffuser yet for a C5?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-18-2014, 11:27 PM
  #1  
VGLNTE1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
VGLNTE1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: Morton illinois
Posts: 6,226
Received 31 Likes on 29 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14-'15
Default Beating the dead horse....anyone make a custom diffuser yet for a C5?

:will y:
Old 03-19-2014, 01:00 PM
  #2  
sperkins
Le Mans Master
 
sperkins's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: Macon, GA
Posts: 9,429
Received 44 Likes on 35 Posts

Default

There are a couple out there, but none that would warrant my purchase.
Seems like most are cosmetic upgrades only.
Old 03-19-2014, 03:09 PM
  #3  
LateBreak
Pro
 
LateBreak's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2010
Posts: 669
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts

Default

I haven't seen anything yet that was cheap or functional enough, the ones that are out there are crazy expensive for what you get. My current plan is to fab one similar to what's on the C6R and C7R, it's a very basic design but should be functional to some extent.
Old 03-19-2014, 06:47 PM
  #4  
giantkeeper
Instructor
 
giantkeeper's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: Peoria Arizona
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LateBreak
I get giddy every time I see the C7R
Old 03-19-2014, 08:18 PM
  #5  
yooper
Racer
Support Corvetteforum!
 
yooper's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2008
Location: Marquette MI
Posts: 442
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Old 03-19-2014, 09:39 PM
  #6  
RapidC84B
Team Owner
 
RapidC84B's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 20,201
Received 13,153 Likes on 5,984 Posts

Default

James Forbis made one on his car...



Another on a Facebook buddy's car...



Old 03-19-2014, 10:08 PM
  #7  
VGLNTE1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
VGLNTE1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: Morton illinois
Posts: 6,226
Received 31 Likes on 29 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14-'15
Default

Very cool! Also...interesting rear wing on that c5 coming out of the window. Odd
Old 03-19-2014, 10:21 PM
  #8  
brkntrxn
Drifting
 
brkntrxn's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: Mooresville NC
Posts: 1,926
Received 51 Likes on 42 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by VGLNTE1
Very cool! Also...interesting rear wing on that c5 coming out of the window. Odd
Look again. That isn't coming out of the window. What you are seeing are the joints in the uprights.
Old 03-20-2014, 02:06 AM
  #9  
KeaRveK
Instructor
Support Corvetteforum!
 
KeaRveK's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2007
Location: Montgomery AL
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by brkntrxn
Look again. That isn't coming out of the window. What you are seeing are the joints in the uprights.
Man, that's like an optical illusion. I thought the same thing on first look...
Old 03-20-2014, 07:31 AM
  #10  
Hi Volts Z06
Burning Brakes
 
Hi Volts Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: North White Plains NY
Posts: 871
Received 53 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

That makes 3 of us!

Originally Posted by KeaRveK
Man, that's like an optical illusion. I thought the same thing on first look...
Old 03-20-2014, 10:18 AM
  #11  
travisnd
Safety Car
 
travisnd's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2008
Location: Chesapeake VA
Posts: 4,629
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

The car in the first and second pictures are the same car... not that hard to see the wing comes out of the rear bumper
Old 03-20-2014, 02:14 PM
  #12  
VGLNTE1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
VGLNTE1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: Morton illinois
Posts: 6,226
Received 31 Likes on 29 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14-'15
Default

Ok new question...how important is it for diff and trans coolers with a diffuser since you need to panel over that section.
Old 03-20-2014, 02:18 PM
  #13  
travisnd
Safety Car
 
travisnd's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2008
Location: Chesapeake VA
Posts: 4,629
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Mandatory.
Old 03-20-2014, 09:51 PM
  #14  
brkntrxn
Drifting
 
brkntrxn's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: Mooresville NC
Posts: 1,926
Received 51 Likes on 42 Posts

Default

Better question: How many people on this forum are driving their cars to the absolute knife-edge limit that a diffuser is going to give them any kind of measurable and consistent decrease in lap time?

I only know of a handful of people... and I am not one of them.
Old 03-21-2014, 08:37 AM
  #15  
VGLNTE1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
VGLNTE1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: Morton illinois
Posts: 6,226
Received 31 Likes on 29 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14-'15
Default

Originally Posted by brkntrxn
Better question: How many people on this forum are driving their cars to the absolute knife-edge limit that a diffuser is going to give them any kind of measurable and consistent decrease in lap time?

I only know of a handful of people... and I am not one of them.
Probably never going to be me. Not competitive anyway. I race to the edge of the limits of the car, but it am no where near needing .0005 off my lap times
Old 03-21-2014, 01:25 PM
  #16  
brkntrxn
Drifting
 
brkntrxn's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: Mooresville NC
Posts: 1,926
Received 51 Likes on 42 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by VGLNTE1
Probably never going to be me. Not competitive anyway. I race to the edge of the limits of the car, but it am no where near needing .0005 off my lap times

I know very few people that can drive a full aero, wide tire, high hp Corvette at the limits of the setup. You are in small company. Hope to see you at Nationals.
Old 03-22-2014, 04:18 AM
  #17  
sleeper02Z06
Burning Brakes
 
sleeper02Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Up in front.... At the finish line.....
Posts: 892
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by brkntrxn
Better question: How many people on this forum are driving their cars to the absolute knife-edge limit that a diffuser is going to give them any kind of measurable and consistent decrease in lap time?

I only know of a handful of people... and I am not one of them.
Many don't drive non-aero cars to the edge before they upgrade to aero. Should they not have?

I think the better original question should have been "Are there diffusers for the C5 that have been developed properly in a test setting like a wind tunnel?"

Get notified of new replies

To Beating the dead horse....anyone make a custom diffuser yet for a C5?

Old 03-22-2014, 08:22 AM
  #18  
brkntrxn
Drifting
 
brkntrxn's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: Mooresville NC
Posts: 1,926
Received 51 Likes on 42 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by sleeper02Z06
Many don't drive non-aero cars to the edge before they upgrade to aero. Should they not have?

If we answer that question truthfully and derail this thread, we are going to hurt the feelings of a LOT of people on this forum.


Old 03-22-2014, 09:26 AM
  #19  
96CollectorSport
Melting Slicks
 
96CollectorSport's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: If you don't weigh in you don't wrestle Road America
Posts: 3,031
Likes: 0
Received 73 Likes on 54 Posts

Default

It doesn't take wind tunnel testing to tell you that a smooth bottom car will have less drag than the dirty underside of the C5/C6 - especially around the tranny and diff cradle. Any time you can accelerate airflow you will decrease drag and increase downforce, so even the most basic designs have a drag reducing benefit. Sure they won't be optimized like wind tunnel tested pieces but they will be beneficial. Jaymz told me at Mid-O that he didn't know if the diffuser was really doing anything but it was weight mounted low and back. After he ran a 1.28.xx in TT2 at Mid-O last year I think we can at least agree it isn't hurting him.
Old 03-22-2014, 11:56 PM
  #20  
sleeper02Z06
Burning Brakes
 
sleeper02Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Up in front.... At the finish line.....
Posts: 892
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by brkntrxn
If we answer that question truthfully and derail this thread, we are going to hurt the feelings of a LOT of people on this forum.




Quick Reply: Beating the dead horse....anyone make a custom diffuser yet for a C5?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:34 PM.