C5 Z06 clutch fluid for track & street
#1
Drifting
Thread Starter
C5 Z06 clutch fluid for track & street
Hey all
My 02 Z is all stock. Only 17k miles and it's safe to say the clutch fluid has never been changed. I've read it's brake fluid, not sure dot 3 or 4. Also, I'm using motul 600 for the brakes, but this is very hygroscopic so I don't know if it's suitable for the clutch or not. Or is a lesser brake fluid what people use for the clutch? Something like the valvoline or castrol product with a 480 dry boiling point. My car is used on the track and street. I intend to use the ranger method, so the fluid will be mixing, not sure if that matters
Thank you!
My 02 Z is all stock. Only 17k miles and it's safe to say the clutch fluid has never been changed. I've read it's brake fluid, not sure dot 3 or 4. Also, I'm using motul 600 for the brakes, but this is very hygroscopic so I don't know if it's suitable for the clutch or not. Or is a lesser brake fluid what people use for the clutch? Something like the valvoline or castrol product with a 480 dry boiling point. My car is used on the track and street. I intend to use the ranger method, so the fluid will be mixing, not sure if that matters
Thank you!
#7
Drifting
Thread Starter
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help
Froggy, I've watched several of your YouTube diy's, thanks for taking the time to create those
Froggy, I've watched several of your YouTube diy's, thanks for taking the time to create those
#12
Burning Brakes
Castrol SRF is way overkill for a clutch, total waste of money. Unless you're Trump. Use any synthetic DOT 4 for the clutch and change very regularly, I change the res every month or so.
Save the SRF for your brakes.
Save the SRF for your brakes.
#13
Melting Slicks
I understand about the cost. We run three cars, share the costs and they all use SRF for clutch and brakes. The $$ side of SRF wasn't ever really a consideration for us especially when compared to the overall spend required to participate in the sport.
I like it because it doesn't absorb water as fast as some of the other fluids mentioned. The OP mentioned the concern about Hygroscopic properties of one of the fluids they were considering and SRF addresses that. Cost may be prohibitive to some.
I have experienced issues while driving other cars with cheaper or old fluid. I have never had those issues with SRF hence why I mentioned I use it.
I like it because it doesn't absorb water as fast as some of the other fluids mentioned. The OP mentioned the concern about Hygroscopic properties of one of the fluids they were considering and SRF addresses that. Cost may be prohibitive to some.
I have experienced issues while driving other cars with cheaper or old fluid. I have never had those issues with SRF hence why I mentioned I use it.
#14
Melting Slicks
I understand about the cost. We run three cars, share the costs and they all use SRF for clutch and brakes. The $$ side of SRF wasn't ever really a consideration for us especially when compared to the overall spend required to participate in the sport.
I like it because it doesn't absorb water as fast as some of the other fluids mentioned. The OP mentioned the concern about Hygroscopic properties of one of the fluids they were considering and SRF addresses that. Cost may be prohibitive to some.
I have experienced issues while driving other cars with cheaper or old fluid. I have never had those issues with SRF hence why I mentioned I use it.
I like it because it doesn't absorb water as fast as some of the other fluids mentioned. The OP mentioned the concern about Hygroscopic properties of one of the fluids they were considering and SRF addresses that. Cost may be prohibitive to some.
I have experienced issues while driving other cars with cheaper or old fluid. I have never had those issues with SRF hence why I mentioned I use it.
#15
Burning Brakes
We'll agree to disagree there. With the clutch, the primary concern isn't water, it's the massive amounts of clutch dust the fluid accumulates.
It should be changed so often that water accumulation is NOT a concern at all. Clutch failure due to fluid issues are typically NOT due to moisture, it's due to dust / dirt / debris in the fluid.
SRF is extremely expensive and arguably the best brake fluid. It is recommended for brakes because if it's high temperature stability, both dry and wet. This characteristic is simply not needed for clutches.
I personally use the expensive stuff for the brakes, the affordable, but still quality stuff for the clutch. The Valvoline is a synthetic DOT 4 and will perform perfectly in the clutch as long as it's changed frequently. For that matter I have no doubt that the Pennzoil is also just fine. Any quality DOT 4 fluid is fine for the clutch.
It should be changed so often that water accumulation is NOT a concern at all. Clutch failure due to fluid issues are typically NOT due to moisture, it's due to dust / dirt / debris in the fluid.
SRF is extremely expensive and arguably the best brake fluid. It is recommended for brakes because if it's high temperature stability, both dry and wet. This characteristic is simply not needed for clutches.
I personally use the expensive stuff for the brakes, the affordable, but still quality stuff for the clutch. The Valvoline is a synthetic DOT 4 and will perform perfectly in the clutch as long as it's changed frequently. For that matter I have no doubt that the Pennzoil is also just fine. Any quality DOT 4 fluid is fine for the clutch.
#16
Burning Brakes
PS - While the clutch does not use much fluid as stated, it does take a lot of fluid to fully change it using the standard Ranger method. If you have a remote bleeder, sure. Most of us do not have a remote bleeder so it actually does take a large amount of fluid to fully flush the system.
#17
Melting Slicks
PS - While the clutch does not use much fluid as stated, it does take a lot of fluid to fully change it using the standard Ranger method. If you have a remote bleeder, sure. Most of us do not have a remote bleeder so it actually does take a large amount of fluid to fully flush the system.
PS, everyone who track their car should install a remote bleeder.
#18
If you have sticky clutch issues, i like Motul. It is the most lubricious of the mid and low cost fluids.
SRF is supposed to be the most lubricious fluid. I never spent the money to try it.
SRF is supposed to be the most lubricious fluid. I never spent the money to try it.
#19
I suck the reservoir dry with a giant syringe then refill with whatever DOT4 I have at the time before every event. Sometimes after each day if there is any cloudiness (dust) in the fluid. Typically Valvoline or CarQuest. Save the Motul for brakes.