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Old 09-10-2014, 10:57 PM
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Default Wheel Well Vents, instaled

Finally got around to installing my wheel well vents. I thought I'd share the finished product and listen to comments, good or bad. I might learn something.

Decided to stick in a pic of the new splitter struts as well
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I thought the idea of the side vents was to evacuate air from the engine compartment.

Have considered removing the plastic piece on the side vent to get more air flow past the dry-sump tank?
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You may want to make tunnels to channel the air and keep debris from collecting, however you may also want to vent the hood to get more hot air out of the engine bay if you do this

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Have considered removing the plastic piece on the side vent to get more air flow past the dry-sump tank?
one of the first "mods" (if youd call it that) I did on my base c6

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Originally Posted by blkbrd69
I thought the idea of the side vents was to evacuate air from the engine compartment.

Have considered removing the plastic piece on the side vent to get more air flow past the dry-sump tank?
I suppose they are. However, the flow path is so restricted, it can't be very effective. I removed my hood seal at the windshield to evacuate hot air from under the hood.

The wheel well builds up a high pressure area causing some front end lift. And the air is dirty air as it exits the wheel well. I'm hoping this will release the air easier and cleaner. CFD study's of the wheel well area show the venting helps.

Also, I removed the front air dam in front of the tires. I hope that will reduce the amount of air being pulled/packed into the wheel well. I am making ducts going to the factory brake cooling duct to make up for removing the dam as the dam is just behind the duct opening. I'm sure I lost some air flow and velocity into the brake cooling duct by taking the air dam off.

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You may want to make tunnels to channel the air and keep debris from collecting, however you may also want to vent the hood to get more hot air out of the engine bay if you do this



one of the first "mods" (if youd call it that) I did on my base c6

I have a hood waiting to get the vents. That will be a next spring addition.
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The base of the windshield is a high pressure area that will fill your engine compartment with air.

If you install a vent in the hood in the forward areas you will get evacuation of under hood air.

Look at the race car for an idea on placement.
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have you tried removing the rear valence and trimming hte rear liners to fit? this should vent more air out from the rear...





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Doesn't he lower air dam also help pull air through the radiator?
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Originally Posted by el es tu
have you tried removing the rear valence and trimming hte rear liners to fit? this should vent more air out from the rear...




You may remember, I'm the guy building the rear splitter fashioned a bit like yours only fitted to the car as an aftermarket bolt on unit.
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Originally Posted by k wright
The base of the windshield is a high pressure area that will fill your engine compartment with air.

If you install a vent in the hood in the forward areas you will get evacuation of under hood air.

Look at the race car for an idea on placement.
Yes, but I believe under the hood is a higher pressure zone because of the ram air effect thru the grill and the lower air dam causing air to go up behind the radiator.

If i'm wrong, please help out.
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Originally Posted by brkntrxn
Doesn't he lower air dam also help pull air through the radiator?
Yes and no, that's why I only removed the two sides. The middle section is still in place. The c6z is a front feeder radiator set up. The air that goes through the radiator enters through the grill. The air dam adds air to the engine compartment that enters behind the radiator, not through the front of the radiator. So I don't think the air going into the engine compartment because of the air dam actually goes through the radiator.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Envision the area behind the air dam as a low pressure area and "pulling" air down and through the radiator.

Either way, it is a moot point if you left the center section in place.
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Originally Posted by k wright
The base of the windshield is a high pressure area that will fill your engine compartment with air.

If you install a vent in the hood in the forward areas you will get evacuation of under hood air.

Look at the race car for an idea on placement.
That's what I thought also, removing that seal is a bad idea.

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The air damn is supposed to prevent more air from spilling under the car, thereby reducing aerodynamic drag and rear end lift, however, because of its placement, it creates a high pressure zone which causes front end lift.

If you can evacuate more air out the rear it might be a good idea to remove the entire airdam. Also if you can at least cover the subframes with flat sections, this will also help reduce drag and lift that the airdam is supposed to help prevent.


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Originally Posted by rabrooks
You may remember, I'm the guy building the rear splitter fashioned a bit like yours only fitted to the car as an aftermarket bolt on unit.
AHHH bad memory!

Hows the project going?


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Originally Posted by el es tu


AHHH bad memory!

Hows the project going?

It was going good until I blew up the brand new engine. The car sat in the shop of 75 day, (the whole freaking summer) I have it back now and decided not to work on it until the fall. IT and the new hood should be ready by spring.
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I like your tinkering !!!
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Originally Posted by rabrooks
Yes, but I believe under the hood is a higher pressure zone because of the ram air effect thru the grill and the lower air dam causing air to go up behind the radiator.

If i'm wrong, please help out.
The volume of air on the top of the hood is much greater and it has a higher velocity. Under the hood is lower pressure.

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IIRC there were some pictures of C6s at the nurburgring showing how much air pressure builds up - so much so that the hood gets pushed upward. There is a german company that actually makes a device that attaches to the hood latching mechanism in order to raise the hood and allow air to escape...

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Originally Posted by rabrooks
It was going good until I blew up the brand new engine. The car sat in the shop of 75 day, (the whole freaking summer) I have it back now and decided not to work on it until the fall. IT and the new hood should be ready by spring.
Yeah these projects never tend to go as quickly as anticipated... Im two years into my diffuser project, right near the finish line and cant get the time to just finish the brackets and mount the darn thing.


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Very nice! I like how all that wheel well area is used up. Thats one area of my design that I might change after testing.

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Originally Posted by k wright
The volume of air on the top of the hood is much greater and it has a higher velocity. Under the hood is lower pressure.
I don't think volume matters in this situation.
Fast moving air is low pressure, sloww moving air is high pressure (generally) Bernouli's rule.
The hood/windshield has the venturi effect.
In the pic all the blue is low pressure
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