Power steering getting a notchy feeling during track day
#1
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Power steering getting a notchy feeling during track day
1998 C5. This is from the NCM Road Race park this past Sunday. Had a GREAT time. But any time I would speed things up a bit my steering wheel acted like the power steering pump was going out. Mind you that this is not exactly a pleasant feeling going 130 MPH two feet off of a wall.
Any idea as to why this happens? When I slow it down the power steering works fine. But as soon as i go hot it starts acting up again.
Thinking it may be:
1. Boiling the power steering fluid.- Never changed it.
2. Power steering pump failure.- Never replaced it.
3. Belt slipping.- Happens at very high RPM.
Thoughts?
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Both my 97 and 03 had to have the steering rack and pumps replaced a couple of times. If the power steering is coming and going in a corner you will suddenly feel very heavy steering which takes a lot of force to maintain you line followed by very easy steering as the system comes back. Either way you react too late for the heavy steering and the car's arc widens and you react too late for the sudden ease and the car's arc tightens. New steering rack will usually fix the problem.
Bill
Bill
#4
Instructor
If you decide to replace any parts, give these guys a look.
http://www.turnone-steering.com/
I had them rebuild my pump and rack and they have been flawless.
http://www.turnone-steering.com/
I had them rebuild my pump and rack and they have been flawless.
Last edited by Gas Junkie; 11-05-2014 at 12:17 PM.
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If you decide to replace any parts, give these guys a look.
http://www.turnone-steering.com/
I had them rebuild my pump and rack and they have been flawless.
http://www.turnone-steering.com/
I had them rebuild my pump and rack and they have been flawless.
#7
Racer
Just throwing in my agreement with the others. At my very first track event this year with my 1999 FRC with 35k miles, my pump failed. I replaced with a Turn One and no issues to speak of yet. It's expensive, but I hope not to replace it again. I believe it does less work per revolution compared to the stock unit, despite having the same size pulley. It means there's a bit more steering effort, but I don't mind it. I thought there was too little on the track with the stock unit.
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Thanks for teh help. Looks like I am building up a winter project list.
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Well, The new pulley from Turn One comes pressed on to the pump and you can install the mounting bolts thru the windows so for me it was a no brainer. The plastic pulley on the stock pump gets removed with a hammer then the new one just bolted in place and for the money they get for a pulley it was just a clean way to get the job done.
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One thing that can help the stock pump. Install a larger power steering cooler. Use a transmission cooler to get more area and more fluid in the system. Once you get the heat out of the fluid the pump and the rack will last much longer.
Bill
Bill
#13
I am starting to have some grinding noise and wonder if it is the same issue. Started at an HPDE event and now still going on the street. Odd thing is it only does when turning left,any slight turn of the wheel to the left. Feels/sounds like low fuild but it's not. Wonder if it just boiled and needs replacing.
#14
I am starting to have some grinding noise and wonder if it is the same issue. Started at an HPDE event and now still going on the street. Odd thing is it only does when turning left,any slight turn of the wheel to the left. Feels/sounds like low fuild but it's not. Wonder if it just boiled and needs replacing.
#15
Burning Brakes
Just for giggles make sure your Harmonic Balancer is not coming off or wobbling. It can hit the power steering rack, and actually mill into it if it gets far enough, causing intermittent power steering loss, and lots of funny noises.
#20
Pro
Had the same issue as OP. Swapped to some redline fluid and seemed to fix it.
I think turn one had a sale when they reached xx face book likes so I picked up a pump and pulley. No more fluid boiling out.
If the fluid has never been changed, I personally would give that a try first, but at some point, you will probably be going the route of a pump and rack rebuild. Seems inevitable from what I read around here.
I think turn one had a sale when they reached xx face book likes so I picked up a pump and pulley. No more fluid boiling out.
If the fluid has never been changed, I personally would give that a try first, but at some point, you will probably be going the route of a pump and rack rebuild. Seems inevitable from what I read around here.