Mid-engined C8
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Racer
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Race Director
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Race Director
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People need to remember that when big manufacturers produce these kind of cars there is often more to it than just making the car.
Oh and I'm pretty sure the engineers at Ford could have quiet happily got a V8 though the emissions laws.
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Race Director
I'm sorry but that's rubbish! Ford were probably considering global emission laws and how they could build a car that not only meets these laws but also boosts the global brand. The ECOboost name is getting pretty big across the world with a lot of people listening when people mention the name. This is another example of it. Ford want people to think of fantastic performance with great emissions when ever people hear the name. So they are using the engines and name across the whole range of cars and trucks and using this as the pinnacle example of the brand. Look at the Mustang getting the 4 cylinder version and a lot of smaller cars getting the 1.0ltr 3 pot version.
People need to remember that when big manufacturers produce these kind of cars there is often more to it than just making the car.
Oh and I'm pretty sure the engineers at Ford could have quiet happily got a V8 though the emissions laws.
People need to remember that when big manufacturers produce these kind of cars there is often more to it than just making the car.
Oh and I'm pretty sure the engineers at Ford could have quiet happily got a V8 though the emissions laws.
Why would Ford take a risk on their top car unless they were forced to?
#28
Race Director
Yes it would be a more compelling car with a v8. But that doesn't matter. This is great marketing for the ecoboost.
#29
Racer
You're forgetting that this car isn't aimed at people who will cross shop or anything. This is a car aimed at people who will add it to their "collection". They will sell them all regardless of what engine they put in them.
Yes it would be a more compelling car with a v8. But that doesn't matter. This is great marketing for the ecoboost.
Yes it would be a more compelling car with a v8. But that doesn't matter. This is great marketing for the ecoboost.
Lastly, after hearing this: http://jalopnik.com/listen-to-the-fo...-bu-1680248013 I think it'll be just fine...
edit: one other thing. If Ford is taking the 3.5TT out of the Ganassi DP and dropping it into the GT and is going to use it for GTLM, that makes for great advertising: "The exact same motor in the race car is in the street car". Corvette's retort would be something like "They won't let us bring the street motor because its too big and makes too much power." Like they did late in the C6's production cycle.
Last edited by hklvette; 01-28-2015 at 04:18 PM.
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Le Mans Master
I doubt the ford GT is going to get much better economy than a DOD C7 with it's big V8. That's not the issue. You really think they used an engine they didn't want in their flagship supercar because of a gas guzzler tax and a a few bucks in CAFE standards?
#32
Racer
I think a lot of people have called it out in the thread. V8 has a negative connotation to the general media (left right or otherwise because writers drive 4 cylinders). Writers can be nasty and the best car manufacturers offset with superior emissions and mpg numbers.
Last edited by briannutter1; 01-28-2015 at 08:05 PM.
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I'm developing a C5 clone chassis, commercially available on Jan 2017, so I must think that a rear-mid-engine car is not necessary.
But I found the rear-mid-engine car:
https://www.factoryfive.com/kits/gtm-supercar/
http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/atta...r-img_3203.jpg
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But I found the rear-mid-engine car:
https://www.factoryfive.com/kits/gtm-supercar/
http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/atta...r-img_3203.jpg
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Last edited by B Stead; 02-01-2015 at 01:15 PM.
#34
Safety Car
I'm developing a C5 clone chassis, commercially available on Jan 2017, so I must think that a rear-mid-engine car is not necessary.
But I found the rear-mid-engine car:
https://www.factoryfive.com/kits/gtm-supercar/
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But I found the rear-mid-engine car:
https://www.factoryfive.com/kits/gtm-supercar/
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http://www.superlitecars.com/index.p.../superlite-slc
And a LOT less work to put together from everything I've read on both forums. The Factory Five has a lot more manufacturing needing to be done on the assemblers part. Not so with the SLC
My second choice would be a Mongoose Corvette GTP http://www.mongoosems.com/GTPSpecifications.php
I've been there and seen these up close...very stiff and beefy chassis, plus it has some history to it as well. They look very cool, and are wicked fast...my drive was short but oh so sweet.
Last edited by 1991Z07; 01-29-2015 at 04:52 PM.
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Seen the Factory Five mid-engined coupe.
Way cool
Here's the pics I took at an open house
http://s242.photobucket.com/user/swi...?sort=3&page=1
Anyone racing those?
Are they even eligible?
Way cool
Here's the pics I took at an open house
http://s242.photobucket.com/user/swi...?sort=3&page=1
Anyone racing those?
Are they even eligible?
#36
Safety Car
Seen the Factory Five mid-engined coupe.
Way cool
Here's the pics I took at an open house
http://s242.photobucket.com/user/swi...?sort=3&page=1
Anyone racing those?
Are they even eligible?
Way cool
Here's the pics I took at an open house
http://s242.photobucket.com/user/swi...?sort=3&page=1
Anyone racing those?
Are they even eligible?
I've been looking at them for years...they look cool for sure. That was what had me started down that path...until I went to Mongoose. When you get the car from them...it is ready to bolt suspension to and is a rolling chassis right now. Body is already bonded...it is ready to start the mechanical build. And if you ship them the wheels, tires and suspension components they will install them and it's a rolling chassis off the truck.
The GTM is not...and is about the same outlay of dollars. I've seen guys talking about thousands of hours to finish it...quite a few hundred was just getting the bodywork to fit right. Panel gaps were all over the map...
I watched them build an SLC on one of the car shows...it was basically bolt it together and go. And they didn't even need to paint it...the gelcoat was flawless. They clear-coated it and that was it. Panels were a perfect fit.
With the kits...there's a lot more to it than the initial outlay of money. If you save $5k and it costs you $10k in bodywork, did you really save anything? This is the biggest reason why so many of the GTM's can be bought unfinished...there is great frustration and then general disinterest and then kicking it out of the garage for a car that actually works.