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Old 01-09-2015, 11:45 AM
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I ordered some Hawk pads directly from the mfg. I ordered them a week ago and found out just now that they still haven't shipped. This is not the first time it's happened. The last time I ordered pad there was also a really long delay with no heads up.

It sucks when you have to cancel a track day because a company that sells racing parts doesn't understand that people who race cars need things ASAP.

So, I'm looking for alternatives to Hawk. What other manufacturers make brake pads for C5 Z06's for track use?
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Originally Posted by kdm123
I ordered some Hawk pads directly from the mfg. I ordered them a week ago and found out just now that they still haven't shipped. This is not the first time it's happened. The last time I ordered pad there was also a really long delay with no heads up.

It sucks when you have to cancel a track day because a company that sells racing parts doesn't understand that people who race cars need things ASAP.

So, I'm looking for alternatives to Hawk. What other manufacturers make brake pads for C5 Z06's for track use?
Have you checked Performance Friction or Stop Tech
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I ran DTC60s for years until I found out about Raybestos ST43s. Now that's all I'll run. Similar pedal feel, same stopping power, nicer on rotors, and incredible life. Call Monty at LPI Racing and he'll hook you up. Most likely he has them in stock and ready to ship.

http://www.lpiracing.com/showsearchr...1821&year=2004
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Originally Posted by kdm123
I ordered some Hawk pads directly from the mfg. I ordered them a week ago and found out just now that they still haven't shipped. This is not the first time it's happened. The last time I ordered pad there was also a really long delay with no heads up.
Same thing happened to me, when I had to order through them using contingency $$.

If you do want to stay with Hawk pads, I suggest ordering from a retailer that carries them in stock. You will most likely qualify for free shipping from OG Racing, and they usually have DTC 70/60 in stock for Corvettes so they ship the same day.

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wow this is the worst customer service experience I've had in years. I tried to online with the company that Hawk subcontracts for its orders, and their website is screwed up so you can't email them. When you try to call their number, you get disconnected when you put in the option for talking to a rep. So there is no way to cancel my order now. It almost seems like a scam. I AM NEVER GETTING HAWK PADS AGAIN

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Do you guys have suggestions for STop Tech or Raybestos, or some other brand, for a C5Z? I use the car really heavily for track days and drive on a track with heavy braking zones. If you guys had part # that would be even better so I could order them from Summit or elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by Scooter70
I ran DTC60s for years until I found out about Raybestos ST43s. Now that's all I'll run. Similar pedal feel, same stopping power, nicer on rotors, and incredible life. Call Monty at LPI Racing and he'll hook you up. Most likely he has them in stock and ready to ship.

http://www.lpiracing.com/showsearchr...1821&year=2004
This ^ Buy ST43's. Livermore is great and I believe DRM is also looking at carrying them soon.
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Originally Posted by kdm123
Do you guys have suggestions for STop Tech or Raybestos, or some other brand, for a C5Z? I use the car really heavily for track days and drive on a track with heavy braking zones. If you guys had part # that would be even better so I could order them from Summit or elsewhere.
Sorry, travelling and do not have numbers. You might try Zeckhausen Racing or Discovery Parts. Google is your friend.

Hope this helps.
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I would try another vendor but stick with Hawk pads.

I have tried almost every pad out there and for racing performance, I have found the Hawk DTC70/60 combination to be the best for me for sprint events.

There are other good pads out there that may work for you but for aggressive braking the Hawk's are difficult to beat.
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Porterfield supplies Raybestos pads, they are excellent to work with.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I will look into those.
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I tried a set of carbotechs and really like them, give some XP10's a spin. Quite a few options for vendors here to get them.
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Randall race parts in Mooresville NC keeps a couple sets of Raybestos ST 47 pads in stock for c5's. All around will be less than $200 shipped. Pretty good pads for me on the track and they seem to last longer than hawks or carboteks
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Originally Posted by RX-Ben
Porterfield supplies Raybestos pads, they are excellent to work with.
Custom made a pair of ST 43 for the rear of my C5Z when they were out. Porterfield is Excellent. Been very happy with Raybestos as well.
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Originally Posted by Scooter70
I ran DTC60s for years until I found out about Raybestos ST43s. Now that's all I'll run. Similar pedal feel, same stopping power, nicer on rotors, and incredible life. Call Monty at LPI Racing and he'll hook you up. Most likely he has them in stock and ready to ship.

http://www.lpiracing.com/showsearchr...1821&year=2004

NO NO NO. go to Randall Race Parts... Much cheaper!!!!

http://www.randallraceparts.com/product-p/r731.15.htm
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Originally Posted by ZedO6
Custom made a pair of ST 43 for the rear of my C5Z when they were out. Porterfield is Excellent. Been very happy with Raybestos as well.
You have to be very very careful with Porterfield. Sometimes they cut down pads to make other pads and they just don't get it right. I have had some good luck and a lot of bad luck.
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Carbotech is the pad MFG you should look at. I will be happy to help you. Carbotech have several different compounds to choose from. Mainly XP10 or XP12 for the C5 depends on your tires.

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Carbotech™ 1521™

The Carbotech™ 1521™ is our high performance street compound. The 1521™ compound is known for its release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. 1521™ is also a very low dusting and low noise compound with an excellent initial bite. This compound's excellent linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Carbotech™ 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 800°F (426°C+). 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle or fleet vehicle. Carbotech™ 1521™ is NOT recommended for ANY track use.


Carbotech™ AX6™

The AX6™ is specifically engineered for Autocross applications. A high torque brake compound delivering reliable and consistent performance over a very wide operating temperature range of 50°F to 1000°F + (10°C to 537°C+). The advanced compound matrix provides an excellent initial bite, high coefficient of friction at lower temperatures along with very progressive brake modulation and release characteristics. Many drivers use the AX6™ for street driving as well, even though Carbotech™ doesn't recommend street driving with AX6™ due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise. AX6™ is NOT recommended as a race compound in most applications.


Carbotech™ XP8™

A high torque brake compound with a wide operating temperature range of 200°F-1250°F+ (93°C to 676°C+). Carbotech™ XP8™ is the first of our racing compounds. Good initial bite at race temperatures, high coefficient of friction, excellent modulation and release characteristics. Extremely high fade resistance and very rotor friendly. Perfect for track day use with any tire and can still be driven safely to and from the track. Carbotech™ does NOT recommended XP8™ as a daily driven street pad due to elevated levels of dust and noise. Carbotech™ XP8™ is a great compound on the front & rear of most open wheel and sports racers.


Carbotech™ XP10™

When Carbotech™ unleashed the XP10™ to the general public it immediately gathered multiple regional, divisional, and national championships. The XP10™ has a very strong initial bite with a coefficient of friction and rotor friendliness unmatched in the industry. Fade resistance is in excess of 1475°F (801°C). XP10™ still maintains the highly praised release, excellent modulation and rotor friendliness that have made all Carbotech™ compounds so successful. Carbotech™ XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


Carbotech™ XP12™

Another highly successful XP™ series compound with an excellent initial bite, torque and fade resistance over and above the XP10™ compound. XP12™ has temperature range of 250°F to 1850°F+ (121°C to 1010°C+). The XP12™ has that excellent Carbotech™ release and modulation that has made all other Carbotech™ compounds so successful. The XP12™ is more rotor aggressive than XP10™, but compared to the competition the XP12™ is still very rotor friendly. XP12™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


Carbotech™ XP20™

The latest iteration of the highly successful XP™ series of compounds. XP20™ is a step up from the highly successful XP16™ compound. With an extremely aggressive initial bite, linear torque curve and excellent fade resistance the XP20™ is another major step in progression of the highly successful XP™ series line of compounds from Carbotech™. XP20™ has a temperature range of 275°F to 2000°F+ (135°C to 1093°C+). Carbotech™ XP20™ maintains our tradition of having the outstanding release and modulation that has made all other Carbotech™ compounds so successful. Carbotech™ XP20™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


Carbotech™ XP24™

XP24™ is the pinnacle compound of the extremely successful XP™ Series of compounds engineered by Carbotech™. This compound is based on the same fundamentals that exist in all other Carbotech™ formulations. XP24™ has even more initial bite, more overall bite, and more torque along with the most linear torque curve we have ever offered. The thermal characteristics are of the highest Carbotech™ offers along with one of the highest coefficient of friction ratings offered by anyone in the braking industry. This compound is the longest wearing compound Carbotech™ offers as it was originally engineered for endurance applications at the highest pro racing levels. This revolutionary new compound has been extremely successful with open wheel, closed wheel, sprint and endurance applications. XP24™ has a temperature range of 400°F to 2000°F+ (204°C to 1093°C+). Carbotech™ XP24™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise along with the necessary heat required to work properly.


Carbotech™ RP2™

The RP2™ compound was engineered for endurance racing based on our highly successful XP™ Series formulations. RP2™ has strong initial bite, a little less modulation than our XP12™, but still maintains the rotor friendliness of our XP™ series compounds. RP2™ has great fade resistance with a temperature range of 250°F to 1450°F+ (121°C to 787°C). RP2™ is as rotor friendly as our XP™ series compounds. Carbotech™ RP2™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.

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I tried a set of carbotechs and really like them, give some XP10's a spin. Quite a few options for vendors here to get them.
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Originally Posted by kdm123
I ordered some Hawk pads directly from the mfg. I ordered them a week ago and found out just now that they still haven't shipped. This is not the first time it's happened. The last time I ordered pad there was also a really long delay with no heads up.

It sucks when you have to cancel a track day because a company that sells racing parts doesn't understand that people who race cars need things ASAP.

So, I'm looking for alternatives to Hawk. What other manufacturers make brake pads for C5 Z06's for track use?
http://ctbrakes.com/
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Originally Posted by fmcokc
NO NO NO. go to Randall Race Parts... Much cheaper!!!!

http://www.randallraceparts.com/product-p/r731.15.htm
Ah yeah...wow very good pricing! Thanks for the tip!


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