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Old 02-20-2015, 01:32 PM
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Any one using their C7 with the Z51 option for track days using a catch can? What brand and model are you using and how is it working for you? Appreciate any info any one can give me--Thank You for your time!
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Any one using their C7 with the Z51 option for track days using a catch can? What brand and model are you using and how is it working for you? Appreciate any info any one can give me--Thank You for your time!
If you don't have a catch can on your C7 - get one. The new 6.2 is a direct inject engine and therefore has no fuel going through the intake manifold to wash the back of the valves. 6.2s with only 3K on them are already oiling their throttle bodies and intakes, at 15K deposits are starting build on the valve bodies, and after the deposits start the rate of deposit increases. This problem isn't 6.2 specific, all direct inject engines suffer from this and need catch cans.
(OK, I'm getting off my soapbox now. )

I've had/have Elite, Moroso, Nick Norris, RX, JEGs, and a few other catch cans over the years. My current favorite is the ADD 1W Version 2 catch can. It comes with both 3/8"(9mm) and 5/8(15mm) hose fittings, a plug or a breather filter so you can run either an open or closed system, a double perforated media can that can be run empty or filled with the media of your choice, and a dip stick for easily checking the oil level. It comes in several colors and costs $85.

Have fun, see you at the track.
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Originally Posted by Last C5
If you don't have a catch can on your C7 - get one. The new 6.2 is a direct inject engine and therefore has no fuel going through the intake manifold to wash the back of the valves. 6.2s with only 3K on them are already oiling their throttle bodies and intakes, at 15K deposits are starting build on the valve bodies, and after the deposits start the rate of deposit increases. This problem isn't 6.2 specific, all direct inject engines suffer from this and need catch cans.
(OK, I'm getting off my soapbox now. )

I've had/have Elite, Moroso, Nick Norris, RX, JEGs, and a few other catch cans over the years. My current favorite is the ADD 1W Version 2 catch can. It comes with both 3/8"(9mm) and 5/8(15mm) hose fittings, a plug or a breather filter so you can run either an open or closed system, a double perforated media can that can be run empty or filled with the media of your choice, and a dip stick for easily checking the oil level. It comes in several colors and costs $85.

Have fun, see you at the track.
That seems like a really good suggestion. I'm looking into these ADD W1 Ver 2's. Much better than cheaper garbage I was considering.
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What does a catch can do?
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In older cars the crankcase vapors were vented to a breather on the valve cover and the vapors then went into the air. The pollution ***** decided this would ruin the planet so newer cars vent the crankcase vapors back into the intake system to be burned again. This leaves you with an oily intake and reduced octane. The catch can is installed between the crankcase outlet and the intake inlet and catches the oil from the crankcase leaving only clean air to go into your intake. You have to empty the catch can occasionally and then you know how much oil would have gone into your motor.
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In older cars the crankcase vapors were vented to a breather on the valve cover and the vapors then went into the air. The pollution ***** decided this would ruin the planet so newer cars vent the crankcase vapors back into the intake system to be burned again. This leaves you with an oily intake and reduced octane. The catch can is installed between the crankcase outlet and the intake inlet and catches the oil from the crankcase leaving only clean air to go into your intake. You have to empty the catch can occasionally and then you know how much oil would have gone into your motor.

That was an effective and concise explanation.

I want to add the ADD W1 Ver 2 with Breather. Does anyone know if or where this will fit on a C7 base automatic?

I might just order and hope for the best. Not sure if this will fit. The listing on eBay states:

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Originally Posted by Last C5
If you don't have a catch can on your C7 - get one. The new 6.2 is a direct inject engine and therefore has no fuel going through the intake manifold to wash the back of the valves. 6.2s with only 3K on them are already oiling their throttle bodies and intakes, at 15K deposits are starting build on the valve bodies, and after the deposits start the rate of deposit increases. This problem isn't 6.2 specific, all direct inject engines suffer from this and need catch cans.
(OK, I'm getting off my soapbox now. )

I've had/have Elite, Moroso, Nick Norris, RX, JEGs, and a few other catch cans over the years. My current favorite is the ADD 1W Version 2 catch can. It comes with both 3/8"(9mm) and 5/8(15mm) hose fittings, a plug or a breather filter so you can run either an open or closed system, a double perforated media can that can be run empty or filled with the media of your choice, and a dip stick for easily checking the oil level. It comes in several colors and costs $85.

Have fun, see you at the track.
So a question on this. Advantage to using the breather vs. no breather? Which is better, and why?
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So a question on this. Advantage to using the breather vs. no breather? Which is better, and why?
Don't bother with a breather. Just plug the hole.

The breather would hinder the ability to pull crankcase vapors from the crankcase. Essentially, a breather on a catch can is a vacuum leak due to it's position in-line with the PCV system.

Plugging the hole allows the PCV system to pull a vacuum in the crankcase (as it's designed to). There is a "fresh air" line that comes off the intake tract and goes into the valve covers/valley. The air that is pulled from the crankcase is refreshed by this line.

The only appropriate place for a breather would be a valve cover. This would take the place of the fresh air line on the intake tract. However, this is already built into the engine and doesn't need to be changed. Breathers were acceptable when cars had carburetors. We've evolved past that point. Any engine designed in the last 30 years doesn't need one.

Get the catch can, plug the breather hole if it has one.
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Originally Posted by firebirdfan
Don't bother with a breather. Just plug the hole.

The breather would hinder the ability to pull crankcase vapors from the crankcase. Essentially, a breather on a catch can is a vacuum leak due to it's position in-line with the PCV system.

Plugging the hole allows the PCV system to pull a vacuum in the crankcase (as it's designed to). There is a "fresh air" line that comes off the intake tract and goes into the valve covers/valley. The air that is pulled from the crankcase is refreshed by this line.

The only appropriate place for a breather would be a valve cover. This would take the place of the fresh air line on the intake tract. However, this is already built into the engine and doesn't need to be changed. Breathers were acceptable when cars had carburetors. We've evolved past that point. Any engine designed in the last 30 years doesn't need one.

Get the catch can, plug the breather hole if it has one.
Breathers are normally used on competition engines and forced induction motors. Reasonably stock LS engines use closed systems.

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