We're in! C5/6 allowed in CAM-S for 2016!
11-02-2015, 10:00 PM
#1
We're in! C5/6 allowed in CAM-S for 2016!
The C5 and C6 have finally been added to CAM-S. 
http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1446494308
Hopefully this opens the door for more people to autocross in somewhat competitive class. Many people mod their cars to extreme extents before ever running an autocross. This usually means they'd be classed in a completely ridiculous class according to the SCCA rules. The CAM classes are basically completely open for modification with the exception of 200TW tires, a full interior, and some simple aero limitations.
I know where I'm putting my car next year.
http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1446494308
Hopefully this opens the door for more people to autocross in somewhat competitive class. Many people mod their cars to extreme extents before ever running an autocross. This usually means they'd be classed in a completely ridiculous class according to the SCCA rules. The CAM classes are basically completely open for modification with the exception of 200TW tires, a full interior, and some simple aero limitations.
I know where I'm putting my car next year.
11-03-2015, 07:37 PM
#6
Safety Car
I bet the PAX gets kicked up BIG time. It would almost have to! Your running C6's with basically unlimited mods on street tires!
11-04-2015, 08:51 PM
#9
Burning Brakes
11-04-2015, 09:42 PM
#10
Burning Brakes
By allowing newer Corvettes, the SCCA defacto booted C3s from CAM with that 2,350 pound minimum weight. Like my '78 can lose 1,000 pounds and meet the other class requirements. My engine is not prepared legal and SSM has turned into a barely streetable race car class. There's a flyweight blown Nissan in SSM here that makes over 450hp. Too fast for my street Vette. Geez, I hate whining.
11-05-2015, 12:06 AM
#11
Drifting
...and just like that I already regret the tire purchasing decision I made last week, but looks like I will actually continue to autox my C5Z next year rather than retiring it.
11-05-2015, 12:49 AM
#12
Burning Brakes
Well, I now really regret my 100tw tire purchase I made at the beginning of the year... Maybe I will De-mod a bit to get out of SSM and be better off (see less HP) in CAM vice SSM.
11-05-2015, 01:17 AM
#13
Supporting Vendor
I think some of you need to relax a little when it comes to the old car/new car thing. The fact is Mike Johnson has a C3 with a hopped up LS3 that has been run exactly twice, it's far from done, and frankly has some driveability issues, and other things that need sorted out. We're really good friends, and last week I borrowed his C6Z and ran the same event he ran his C3. It was damp and slick to start, and then dried out. By the end, I was 1.1 seconds ahead.. on a bumpy lot, in a car I know, on the same kind of tires. In the damp he was actually closer than not.
The C3's are lighter, and can be lighter, they are narrower, they are shorter wheelbase by a not insignificant 9". And if the whole idea of CAM is about fun, then there is nothing to make a big deal about anyway. But let's say you do. If you don't have 550hp at the wheels you are down on power even to other C3's to begin with.
The C3's are lighter, and can be lighter, they are narrower, they are shorter wheelbase by a not insignificant 9". And if the whole idea of CAM is about fun, then there is nothing to make a big deal about anyway. But let's say you do. If you don't have 550hp at the wheels you are down on power even to other C3's to begin with.
11-05-2015, 07:48 PM
#14
Safety Car
Not mention I bet Mike's car does not have the stock C3 suspension? Am I wrong? Nothing in the rules saying you cannot put a custom chassis with C4 or C5 suspension under the C3 body at least that is my interpretation. I've looked into this road, its not cheap but cool as hell.
11-05-2015, 08:06 PM
#15
Burning Brakes
Mikes car has the same Van Steel products that Danny Popp has on his c3 and that you can buy off the shelf. Different shocks though. Mike has MCS and Danny has JRi.
11-20-2015, 03:07 PM
#18
It's only 0.003 off STU though. And CAM-S allows way more freedom.
That's only a difference of 0.180 seconds on a 60 second course...
Though, I don't think CAM-S is an official class for nationals (correct me if I'm wrong), so anyone who's looking at nationals is still shooting for STU instead. The only difference it might make is in local events.
That's only a difference of 0.180 seconds on a 60 second course...
Though, I don't think CAM-S is an official class for nationals (correct me if I'm wrong), so anyone who's looking at nationals is still shooting for STU instead. The only difference it might make is in local events.
Last edited by firebirdfan; 11-20-2015 at 03:09 PM.
11-22-2015, 06:25 PM
#19
Safety Car
To the best of my knowledge, only Corvettes eligible for STU is the C4 (NON ZR1, LT4) and the C5 (NON Z06). So unless you have one of those CAM-S.
Fearless prediction, if CAM (in general) but Sport specifically takes off. You better bring money if you want to run at the pointy end of the field at National events. Remember, basically few rules and OPEN mods for about everything after that. PAX will get adjusted based on results, if it takes off and cars get faster, you will see it adjusted upwards.
Fearless prediction, if CAM (in general) but Sport specifically takes off. You better bring money if you want to run at the pointy end of the field at National events. Remember, basically few rules and OPEN mods for about everything after that. PAX will get adjusted based on results, if it takes off and cars get faster, you will see it adjusted upwards.
11-22-2015, 07:25 PM
#20
Drifting
To the best of my knowledge, only Corvettes eligible for STU is the C4 (NON ZR1, LT4) and the C5 (NON Z06). So unless you have one of those CAM-S.
Fearless prediction, if CAM (in general) but Sport specifically takes off. You better bring money if you want to run at the pointy end of the field at National events. Remember, basically few rules and OPEN mods for about everything after that. PAX will get adjusted based on results, if it takes off and cars get faster, you will see it adjusted upwards.
Fearless prediction, if CAM (in general) but Sport specifically takes off. You better bring money if you want to run at the pointy end of the field at National events. Remember, basically few rules and OPEN mods for about everything after that. PAX will get adjusted based on results, if it takes off and cars get faster, you will see it adjusted upwards.
I'd rather see an "STZ" or whatever that's faster than STU for C5Z, C6, C7, Viper, Porsches, etc. but until that happens I'll run CAM-S.
Last edited by troyguitar; 11-22-2015 at 07:26 PM.