elan nasa prototype. $65k
#61
Melting Slicks
Yeah, I think the price point of this car is very good. It's not a 15 year old used street car with some "race mods". A spec class with a sealed motor eliminates most if not all the additional cost of most spec classes. The problem will be getting enough to race in your region. I think they might try to combine regions to bring enough cars together at certain events.
We ran our 4 year old rental car against a brand new one and there was almost zero difference in the acceleration. At the time, a rebuild was $4,500.
Brake rotors last 3 seasons, didn't have to work on them at the track, just gas and go.
And they're damn fast.
Last edited by Bill32; 11-25-2015 at 07:05 PM.
#62
Heel & Toe
Yea, the Mazda motor costs are very reasonable, at least for the spec open wheel cars I was building. And they stay competitive.
We ran our 4 year old rental car against a brand new one and there was almost zero difference in the acceleration. At the time, a rebuild was $4,500.
Brake rotors last 3 seasons, didn't have to work on them at the track, just gas and go.
And they're damn fast.
We ran our 4 year old rental car against a brand new one and there was almost zero difference in the acceleration. At the time, a rebuild was $4,500.
Brake rotors last 3 seasons, didn't have to work on them at the track, just gas and go.
And they're damn fast.
#63
Advanced
Since this is the Corvette Forum Road Racing section, I think you'll find most guys here A. Like Corvettes B. like making them faster. So a "spec" car powered by a tiny engine isn't going to get a lot of praise around here. Its a neat idea, and yes for the price its got decent speed, but there are too many of these types of cars out there that just dilute the pool for racing. Also isn't one of the problems with NASA and SCCA now that there are too many classes?
I've been curious to see what the real laps times are. I see a lot of posts going in circles. Claiming 5 seconds faster than a 991 Cup car, which is serious speed, probably talking 1:15's at NJMP Thunderbolt, but i see from the video it only did a 1:28, and it doesn't look like much more room to go. Not sure if the guy wasn't using the curbs because the car can't, or just didn't know his way around. For reference I turned a 24.1 in a C5 Z06 that was built to the pre-2009 SCCA T1 rules. No fancy brakes, or shocks, or aero.
Andrew
I've been curious to see what the real laps times are. I see a lot of posts going in circles. Claiming 5 seconds faster than a 991 Cup car, which is serious speed, probably talking 1:15's at NJMP Thunderbolt, but i see from the video it only did a 1:28, and it doesn't look like much more room to go. Not sure if the guy wasn't using the curbs because the car can't, or just didn't know his way around. For reference I turned a 24.1 in a C5 Z06 that was built to the pre-2009 SCCA T1 rules. No fancy brakes, or shocks, or aero.
Andrew
#64
Melting Slicks
#65
Looks like fun to me.
Of course we're on a corvette forum, but everything doesn't have to be a comparison against corvettes. I want to drive anything I can get the keys to!
Supposedly NASA will have one running at the 25 hour. You guys will have all sort of lap times comparisons to work on then.
#66
Melting Slicks
#67
Racer
My understanding was it was "built" to run with the bigger cars. While it seems to be a robust structure, I'd rather be in the 3200 lb GT car vs a 1500 lb P car when they decide to interact.
#68
Safety Car
Charley
#69
Safety Car
A lot of this discussion seems totally irrelevant. It's a Spec Racer guys.
The real question is can they sell enough of them to create a real race. Building 17 cars for the entire United States won't do it.
The real competition for this car is the SCCA Spec Racer Ford. SCCA has just introduced a GEN3 car so it could get interesting.
The good part is that with SRF there are full classes. If you buy an early SRF you can run vintage with it.
We have to wait and see if they can sell enough to actually hold races. That's going to take a couple of years.
Richard Newton
Historic Racing Images
The real question is can they sell enough of them to create a real race. Building 17 cars for the entire United States won't do it.
The real competition for this car is the SCCA Spec Racer Ford. SCCA has just introduced a GEN3 car so it could get interesting.
The good part is that with SRF there are full classes. If you buy an early SRF you can run vintage with it.
We have to wait and see if they can sell enough to actually hold races. That's going to take a couple of years.
Richard Newton
Historic Racing Images
#70
Since this is the Corvette Forum Road Racing section, I think you'll find most guys here A. Like Corvettes B. like making them faster. So a "spec" car powered by a tiny engine isn't going to get a lot of praise around here. Its a neat idea, and yes for the price its got decent speed, but there are too many of these types of cars out there that just dilute the pool for racing. Also isn't one of the problems with NASA and SCCA now that there are too many classes?
I've been curious to see what the real laps times are. I see a lot of posts going in circles. Claiming 5 seconds faster than a 991 Cup car, which is serious speed, probably talking 1:15's at NJMP Thunderbolt, but i see from the video it only did a 1:28, and it doesn't look like much more room to go. Not sure if the guy wasn't using the curbs because the car can't, or just didn't know his way around. For reference I turned a 24.1 in a C5 Z06 that was built to the pre-2009 SCCA T1 rules. No fancy brakes, or shocks, or aero.
Andrew
I've been curious to see what the real laps times are. I see a lot of posts going in circles. Claiming 5 seconds faster than a 991 Cup car, which is serious speed, probably talking 1:15's at NJMP Thunderbolt, but i see from the video it only did a 1:28, and it doesn't look like much more room to go. Not sure if the guy wasn't using the curbs because the car can't, or just didn't know his way around. For reference I turned a 24.1 in a C5 Z06 that was built to the pre-2009 SCCA T1 rules. No fancy brakes, or shocks, or aero.
Andrew
path A turn corvette into race car, get laid, have fun.
Path B realize corvette is kinda pricey to race and buys separate car (with cheaper operating expense) to race with, keeps corvette shinny.
I'm a path B guy. Kevin is probably a path A guy. not saying one is right and the other is wrong, but if your a path B guy/gal then the NPo1 is kinda exciting.
#74
Safety Car
There are Corvette guys and then there are Racers.
Racers will drive anything that can win. They have no marque loyalty.
Corvette guys will struggle forever trying to make a Corvette that can win it's class - even if the rules mean the Corvette is totally screwed.
Richard Newton
Racers will drive anything that can win. They have no marque loyalty.
Corvette guys will struggle forever trying to make a Corvette that can win it's class - even if the rules mean the Corvette is totally screwed.
Richard Newton
#75
Race Director
There are Corvette guys and then there are Racers.
Racers will drive anything that can win. They have no marque loyalty.
Corvette guys will struggle forever trying to make a Corvette that can win it's class - even if the rules mean the Corvette is totally screwed.
Richard Newton
Racers will drive anything that can win. They have no marque loyalty.
Corvette guys will struggle forever trying to make a Corvette that can win it's class - even if the rules mean the Corvette is totally screwed.
Richard Newton
#76
Drifting
I am hoping they sell a zillion of these so in a few years they will be widely available and cheap.
Last edited by blkbrd69; 11-28-2015 at 05:28 PM.
#79
Racer
Originally Posted by Matt
You forgot the X racer HPDE guys just looking for a solid platform that believed the hype and thought the Corvette was a track car???
I am hoping they sell a zillion of these so in a few years they will be widely available and cheap.
I am hoping they sell a zillion of these so in a few years they will be widely available and cheap.
The time savings alone can let me get to the track a whole lot more.
#80
I'm no X racer, but this looks like a whole lot of fun to me. And a great value too. Instead of spending hours and hours getting my car back into street form after the weekend so I can idle around town in my so-called dual-purpose track car.
The time savings alone can let me get to the track a whole lot more.
The time savings alone can let me get to the track a whole lot more.